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70-200mm zoom for M (240)?/Beyond 90 mm on the M240 (MERGED)


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Dear all,

 

For a while I have been browsing the web for a tele zoom solution for the M240. What is the best solution according to you, and why taking into account weight (backpacking..), size, IQ, price, brand?

 

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Marc

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Depends on what your subject matter might be.

 

Quite good, light, extremely good value for money : Olympus Zuiko 75-150.

Excellent, universal, not too light: Leica Vario- Elmar R 80-200 (and 2x Apo-Extender)

Superb, long, heavy,expensive: Leica Vario-Elmar  R 105-280 (+1.4x and 2X Apo-extenders.)

 

Plus a mass of other brand offerings out there.

As long as they have an aperture ring.

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I use the Leica Vario-Elmar-R 1:4/80-200 and it's great. Need the EVF of course.

 

Here's a few with the 80-200

 

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I gather from your post that you are still in the stage of determining exactly what will work for you and whether a long zoom is going to be a viable solution for your uses.  Having also found myself in this position a year or so ago, I picked up a Nikon 80-200 f4 with which to experiment.  The Pre AI manual focus lenses are relatively light all metal construction and were very highly rated optically in their day.  As they will not attach to current Nikon bodies without modification they sell at comparatively depressed prices.  You can find good specimens as low as $40 and mint versions around the $125 mark.  It might be worth consideration just for experimentation at a low cost before deciding on exactly which modern lens you would prefer.

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Depends on what your subject matter might be.

 

Quite good, light, extremely good value for money : Olympus Zuiko 75-150.

Excellent, universal, not too light: Leica Vario- Elmar R 80-200 (and 2x Apo-Extender)

Superb, long, heavy,expensive: Leica Vario-Elmar R 105-280 (+1.4x and 2X Apo-extenders.)

 

Plus a mass of other brand offerings out there.

As long as they have an aperture ring.

I agree with this recommendation. Zuiko 75-150 is surprising good value. For everyday pics it will be same as others. I also have 80-200 vario but it doesn't get used much. If you don't care for zoom then for quality (and portability), I can vouch for Voigtlander 180 APO Lanthar which is excellent in every respect. It is sharp at infinity, focuses close, best bokeh for portraits, weighs one lb and small enough for a jacket pocket. This is the reason why I don't use my other zoom lenses (Zuiko and R Vario). It also helps that I am not a zoom guy. Two turning rings confuse me. :)

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Depends on what your subject matter might be.

 

Quite good, light, extremely good value for money : Olympus Zuiko 75-150.

Excellent, universal, not too light: Leica Vario- Elmar R 80-200 (and 2x Apo-Extender)

Superb, long, heavy,expensive: Leica Vario-Elmar  R 105-280 (+1.4x and 2X Apo-extenders.)

 

Plus a mass of other brand offerings out there.

As long as they have an aperture ring.

 

Also the APO-Elmarit-R 70-180 f2.8 ?

 

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If you don't care for zoom then for quality (and portability), I can vouch for Voigtlander 180 APO Lanthar which is excellent in every respect.

 

 

... or if you want to stay on Leica lenses, the APO Telyt-R 180/3.4.

It works fine also with the 1.4x and 2x APO extenders.

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... or if you want to stay on Leica lenses, the APO Telyt-R 180/3.4.

It works fine also with the 1.4x and 2x APO extenders.

With the 1.4 Apo-extender? You'll need a hammer and chisel to mount it :D Small matter of a rear element ;)

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Also the APO-Elmarit-R 70-180 f2.8 ?

 

Jeff

Well, yes, but at 1900 grams -the same as the 105-280- it is not really a featherweight. Superb lens though, but not the easiest to get the maximum performance from.

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... or if you want to stay on Leica lenses, the APO Telyt-R 180/3.4.

It works fine also with the 1.4x and 2x APO extenders.

Actually I did consider the Telyt 180 APO. It was a toss between Telyt and Lanthar. Finally I went for Lanthar due to close focus and lighter weight. I don't have direct experience with Telyt 180 but Lanthar is better than my 80-200 vario and more portable. I guess both cost similar too.

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This is what I shot with 80-200 Vario two week's ago (at 80mm). Somehow I like 80-200 between 80 and 135. I tried to take the same shot with my 90 macro-elmar M and somehow liked the 80-200 vario's picture better. It's only downside is that it is heavy.

 

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80-200 Vario f/4 is 4 lb on M240. 

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Where as Voigtlander 180 APO Lanthar is 3lb on M240 (ofcourse, it is fixed and not zoom).

 

BTW, note how compact this lens is. In the picture the hood is on. If you take off the hood then it is only till the shiny metal. Vario 80-200 is almost twice the size in length. 

At one point I was getting too obsessed with weights. This year my resolution is to exercise and not worry about the weight. :)

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Thanks all, very useful feedback. I never considered the Olympus and will google a bit on the specs and examples. The vario 80-200 is very attractive but I have to get passed the weight.

Any issues to look for when purchasing a 80-200?

 

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Marc

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Regarding 80-200, please check the head of the lens! Mine was loose one I got it and had to be serviced before I could use it. Otherwise it's an excellent lens and works very well with the 2x apo extender. The only drawback is lack of a proper tripod mount but if you use the Leica R-M adapter this will not really be an issue (I use the novo flex variant). The weight doesn't really bother me, I have no problem hand holding it. I mostly shoot at f4 as well which works very, very well.

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Where as Voigtlander 180 APO Lanthar is 3lb on M240 (ofcourse, it is fixed and not zoom).

 

BTW, note how compact this lens is. In the picture the hood is on. If you take off the hood then it is only till the shiny metal. Vario 80-200 is almost twice the size in length. 

 

At one point I was getting too obsessed with weights. This year my resolution is to exercise and not worry about the weight. :)

The Olympus, total weight ; camera, lens, adapter, EVF :  2 lb 1.1 oz.

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