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Bill & Guy,

 

Why don't you offer to buy a lens for someone on the forum and take a percentage of the savings. That way you benefit and so does a forum member. I would be interested and provide the funds via PayPal.

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Well mine may come down to the last day decision. I want a 24mm don't really need it but hey that and the Nocti about the only thing i could use , do I need them . Hmmm

 

Besides it would not be normal for me to make a profit, I usually lose my shirt and shorts on selling stuff.:D It would feel weird

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Guy, I'm not sure how you would lose. For example, say I wanted the 28/2.8 Asph, the price is $1,495 list. at 20% off it would be $1,196 but you would pay 30% discount or $1,046 and pocket the difference of $149.50 for your trouble. The buyer would send you the $1,196 in advance so you are not out of pocket anything and stand to make a little for your trouble and time. Finally, you help a fellow forum member (not saying it has to be me but that would be nice :))

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LOL

 

I think for me it comes down to HTHTHFW ( How the hell to hide from wife)

 

Which directly relates to IAIHLLAD ( I admit I have Leica lens aquisition disease) which the only cure relates back to number one HTHTHFW.

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Guy, I'm not sure how you would lose. For example, say I wanted the 28/2.8 Asph, the price is $1,495 list. at 20% off it would be $1,196 but you would pay 30% discount or $1,046 and pocket the difference of $149.50 for your trouble. The buyer would send you the $1,196 in advance so you are not out of pocket anything and stand to make a little for your trouble and time. Finally, you help a fellow forum member (not saying it has to be me but that would be nice :))

 

I know it would feel like cheating, just to bloody honest for my own good sometimes

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Could someone publish the US price list again? The coupon is like an option to buy at a discounted price. The lenses with the greatest discount from current street prices will be the best....if the ability to sell and selling price is factored in. Don t let these expire .

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Just remember that the lenses arrive registered to the M8 owner....so I don't think there would be any warranty on the lens to the second person (which is why they preregister them, of course, to discourage coupon transfer). Which means that if there is a problem, the seller would have to send the lens in for the buyer, or the buyer would have to just pay for repair.

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Just remember that the lenses arrive registered to the M8 owner....so I don't think there would be any warranty on the lens to the second person (which is why they preregister them, of course, to discourage coupon transfer). Which means that if there is a problem, the seller would have to send the lens in for the buyer, or the buyer would have to just pay for repair.

 

Still a lot cheaper then what a mint used lens would go for these days. If you are talking about the most popular focal lengths like the 50/1.4 ASPH.

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There is another way to do this: hook up with someone who has a coupon and the lens you want in mint condition, and split the difference in the savings. Transfer the old mint lens to the new owner, and the coupon dude keeps the coupon lens. Would that work? I have a WATE with finder, for example, which I have had for a few days now, as well as a coupon I likely won't be able to use. I could theoretically do something like this with someone who needs a WATE (+finder). I didn't even fill in the warranty cards. I don't know how the logistics work out though, given that the dealer sold the lens to me.

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Quick summary, and then if there is more, we will continue in another thread :)

 

It is really nice, sharp, I love the accuracy of the viewfinder, and the focal lengths are perfect. I love the haptics. The downside: the workflow. If used with an IR filter, then the workflow is as follows: put lens on camera, put special finder on camera, find subject and choose which focal length you want to use, turn camera on, set focal length through menu, set the lens to that focal length, set viewfinder to that focal length, use viewfinder to roughly compose the shot, focus on selected focus point, transfer distance from lens to viewfinder, re-focus, just in case you moved, frame, and shoot. Don't forget the exposure along the way.

 

If you don't use the filter, this simplifies. If you leave the camera on between shots and don't change the focal length, this simplifies. If you want to use it like the CV15, the you just guess the focus distance, point and shoot, and this works reasonably well.

 

I haven't seen the flare that someone mentioned. The distortion seems low. I do manage to forget to turn off IR filter correction and hence get magenta corners, which are hard to fix. I have the 49mm Leica IR filter and John Milich's adapter on the way.

 

All in all, it is what I wanted. I don't use a super-wide for fast work, and the quality is there, so I am happy. I might keep the CV15 for travelling though. I think when the IR filter and adapter get here, my walk-around kit will be WATE, 28/2, 50/1.4A, 90/4M. An optional, lighter kit would be CV15, 35/2A, 75/1.4.

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I would ove to have someone use there 30 percent to help me out in buying a lens I married a women with 4 kids 3 of them girls I could use a brake . Also woould give the coupon person any phot they want from my website http://www.davidseelig.com if you need a gift for any one that loves music look at my site David

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even considering the warranty issue, with the prices that mint leica lenses are commanding on ebay, use the coupon to buy an in demand lens and simply sell it later. The profit goes to the inconvenience of having to send the camera in for the upgrade. I can't see any way to lose on this.

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If I was Leica, I'd be waiting with baited breath to see just how big the last minute rush is going to be. A large number of Nocti orders arriving postmarked 30 June might not make their day. I expect there will people who delay and delay and then complain that their letter didn't make it, didn't get postmarked correctly and so on.

 

Truth is, I do not think we will ever see new Leica lenses at these prices again so if you think you're ever going to buy one of the current lenses new, now is the time to do it.

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Mark: What are you using to bait your breath? Cheese or angleworms? (wink! I think that phrase is short for a-bated, as in ceased, paused, "I'm holding my breath to see...").

 

Personally, I finally plumped for the 28 f/2.8 ASPH, since it is ever so slightly sharper than my v.3 28, much more compact, already coded, and in selling the older 28 the final out-of-pocket will be $300 or less. Like Bill, I really don't need much else - I'm covered from 15mm-135mm - and couldn't afford much else anyway.

 

The discount via M8 coupons is probably about equal to the dealer markup, so Leica won't suffer much regardless of how they are used, or by whom. If you must feel guilty about using them, the losers are the retail dealers who might have made a sale themselves if it were not for the direct sales via the coupons.

 

And since most dealers have sold out their entire stocks and are backordered anyway....

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