Deliberate1 Posted October 17, 2015 Share #1 Posted October 17, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Lust, in all its delectable forms, blinds us to the obvious, notwithstanding unmistakable signs of fatal attraction. A bug light price, grade-school syntax and the most unimaginative of justifications for selling a prized, largely unattainable object of desire at a price one might expect to pay a scruffy scoundrel from the back of a beater van on a nervous 24000 ISO night. Please take the time to read the feedback given by the cuckold buyer to his nemesis who did not so much steal his money but piss on his dreams. A worse fate. Imagine the catastrophic mood crash. You can not stop stupid. But you can watch it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-Q-Typ-116-Digital-Camera-BRAND-NEW-/111763139158?hash=item1a059a2a56%3Ag%3AGT0AAOSwu4BV6YHB&nma=true&si=Wk1wc9U3Oa1N0g0lMiO5eFsj8fk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Hi Deliberate1, Take a look here Qaveat Emptor. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lucerne Posted October 17, 2015 Share #2 Posted October 17, 2015 With all my experience, I've still managed in the past to be tempted by a deal that was too good to be true. I also lost but got no redress! I take a more cautious and pessimistic approach nowadays. Prefer to pay authorised or established dealers with history. note: true and more accurate definition. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/caveat%20emptor noun caveat emp·tor \-ˈem(p)-tər, -ˌtȯr\. law : the principle that a person who buys something is responsible for making sure that it is in good condition, works ... Not practical when the buyer can't get to see the item before making an online payment. Hence the need to qualify the seller before bidding and looking for the clues within the sellers description. Avoid the signals at your peril. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 17, 2015 Share #3 Posted October 17, 2015 Here is the US, my CC company will chargeback any vendor who I can justify has misrepresented anything to me. That is pretty good insurance to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliberate1 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted October 18, 2015 Here is the US, my CC company will chargeback any vendor who I can justify has misrepresented anything to me. That is pretty good insurance to me. Perhaps you are aware that credit card companies will no longer absorb fraudulent transactions completed with cards lacking the new chip technology. http://www.bostonherald.com/business/business_markets/2015/09/credit_cards_chip_on_their_shoulders_fraud_liability_to_be_on It is interesting to see the change in buyer confidence (or risk-taking) with the advent of institutional protections. I clearly remember the old days on Ebay when I would send a seller a bank check and keep my fingers crossed until the item arrived. Never did get burned. With Paypal, even a guy who makes an improvident purchase, like Q-man, can rely on that "bank" to cover his loss. Not saying that wearing a seatbelt makes people drive faster, or helmets on skiers encourage incaution. I can not help but think that a financial safety net can discourage transactional prudence - resulting in a $3000 box of paper plates. Society, at large, picks up the tab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted October 18, 2015 Share #5 Posted October 18, 2015 I can not help but think that a financial safety net can discourage transactional prudence - resulting in a $3000 box of paper plates. Society, at large, picks up the tab. You make a very good point... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juchelka Posted October 18, 2015 Share #6 Posted October 18, 2015 "Perhaps you are aware that credit card companies will no longer absorb fraudulent transactions completed with cards lacking the new chip technology." That is different then what algrove is writing about. What I think he is describing is situation when bank will reimburse you if you made a legitimate purchase but seller did not keep his end of the bargain... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orguy Posted October 18, 2015 Share #7 Posted October 18, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, don't buy anything in general from Ebay. I gave up on them a long time ago. Good place to shop for an good deal on a "Rolex." So what else is new? I've absorbed a lot of good information from this forum. And enjoyed some wonderful images. Why pollute it with this kind of noisy, fairly pointless post? Less noise and pointless chatter from people who are doing the equivalent of a "selfie" online would be nice. Polite, high quality relevant posts, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msohio Posted October 18, 2015 Share #8 Posted October 18, 2015 I found I could not wait in the seemingly endless line at B&H, I ordered it on June 20th. Posted on our site that I wanted a used Q, that was about two months ago. Bought it with minimal clicks and did not pay a premium. Our members I trust. Flawless transaction. And it has lots of clicks on it now. Heaven only knows if I would have had my B&H Q yet, but I could not care less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmak817 Posted October 19, 2015 Share #9 Posted October 19, 2015 I watched ebay very closely during the month of September for Qs. Didn't bid on this one, not with a seller with such little feedback, no experience in the category, and a "too good to be true" price. A week after this item sold, the same seller listed the same item at a slightly higher price. I sent the seller a question on the new item, to the effect of "Didn't you sell this camera a week ago?" He responded that "the buyer flaked" and he had to relist. The new listing was removed shortly thereafter (probably when the first buyer contested the paypal charge). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumolux Posted October 19, 2015 Share #10 Posted October 19, 2015 I have been very lucky with eBay for many years, I guess only because I check out the seller closely and read the feedback. Found a few using fake feedback with lots of low price items selling to a a few people; then suddenly there is a camera of $ 3,000 there. No go of course. Seller ratings do count....If they have been members for years and have a rating above 98% you will be OK. Yes, don't buy anything in general from Ebay. I gave up on them a long time ago. Good place to shop for an good deal on a "Rolex." So what else is new? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliberate1 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted October 19, 2015 I, too, have successfully purchased many expensive items on Ebay - from camera gear to rugs, clothing and art from Europe.With just a modicum of common sense, you can make trades with great confidence. That being said, my favorite transaction was for a Rollei 6008i/Schneider 90mm from a fellow in Sweden. I believe his gear was advertised on photo.net. Via email I expressed concerns over wiring him $2200 US without seeing the camera. He replied, "No worries. I will send the camera. If you like it, send me the money." He did. And I did. Done deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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