cwolffensperger Posted September 21, 2015 Share #61 Posted September 21, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Still sounds very tempting... But hopefully for my accountant I'll be able to control my GAS... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Robert M Poole Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share #62 Posted September 21, 2015 Still sounds very tempting... But hopefully for my accountant I'll be able to control my GAS...I don't regret it for a second! Mine was a 30th birthday present from my wife so she can't even complain about the cost! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 21, 2015 Share #63 Posted September 21, 2015 Still sounds very tempting... But hopefully for my accountant I'll be able to control my GAS... Your accountant will be paying for it?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwolffensperger Posted September 21, 2015 Share #64 Posted September 21, 2015 I'd wish Jaap..! Or maybe I should my wife somehow get to read this thread, and maybe she'll read Roberts post as well ;-)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share #65 Posted September 21, 2015 She got a diamond encrusted Omega Constellation for her birthday so she couldn't say no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plantagoo Posted September 22, 2015 Share #66 Posted September 22, 2015 Hi. As for the Leica support. They just (in May 2015) ended support for the 2003 Digilux 2 due to the fact that they are not longer able to receive spare parts any more. I have no worries they will support the Q for >10 years. But I'm quite sure I will have a hard time to remember that I once had a Q in 10 years... Erik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indergaard Posted September 23, 2015 Share #67 Posted September 23, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The good thing about buying Leica is if you don't like it, sell it and you won't loose too much money like you would with a Fuji. This is not true any more. Not for cameras or lenses. Leica equipment hardly moves on the 2nd hand market nowadays, and thus, 2nd hand value plummets. The market will probably pick up again when the new M is released in the near future. Except - the value of the M240 will go drastically down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indergaard Posted September 23, 2015 Share #68 Posted September 23, 2015 As a pure fun machine I prefer the X100T over the Q. The main reasons are: 1. With the X100T I can print directly from the camera to the Fujifilm Instax Share SP-1 printer and hand out images, without having to use my phone as a proxy. 2. With the X100T I have a built in RAW-converter, and many film presets and settings that I can process raw images with, without having to use a computer. This is also very convenient with the Instax SP-1 printer. And the results from the built-in raw converter is actually very very good! Much better than ANY OOC JPEG from ANY Leica camera. 3. The X100T provides an excellent EVF and OVF, and two cheap lens converters that also gives good results, especially for the money. 4. Personally, I prefer the 35mm focal length for every day use. 28mm isn't a focal length that I like, except in very rare situations where I need the width. I'm a 35/50 guy. The Q will deliver technically better images, of course. But if you want better results with the Fuji - start using Capture One Pro 8, and the technical quality will be a lot better than what any Adobe product is able to produce. Unless 28mm is YOUR focal length, I would not recommend the Q. A X100T is a much better choice if you really prefer the 35mm focal length! Adapting to a focal length that you're not a big fan of is never a good idea. That's like forcing yourself to love a job that you hate. Not a good idea. If 28mm is your favorite focal length then there is no better choice than the Q on the market. A 2nd option, as a more "fun camera", is the X100T with the WCL-X100 (28mm converter). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T44ISKN Posted September 24, 2015 Share #69 Posted September 24, 2015 I have joined the Leica Q family only a week ago coming from the Fuji X100 & XT1. The Fuji's are awesome cameras but the Leica Q is a step up (Sorry but FF trumps APS-C). Is it worth the $?. I was very nervous handing over the cash for the Q but after using it for a week I have no regrets at all. The Leica Q is just that much better for what I do. I will always keep the X100 (Good as a backup camera) and will hold onto the XT1 for now but may consider selling it down the track. The Leica Q is the camera I have been waiting for and the Fuji's have paved the way to getting there. Funnily enough, after 3-4 weeks of owning the Q, I'm considering going back the other way. Having owned most of the Fuji X cameras in the past, I'm not sufficiently impressed by the Q, given the massive price differential. Maybe I just expected to much? There's no denying the quality of the lens and the build though. I'm probably going to put my Q up for sale in the Classifieds section here and pick up an X100T. Anyone interested, PM me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 24, 2015 Share #70 Posted September 24, 2015 This is not true any more. Not for cameras or lenses. Leica equipment hardly moves on the 2nd hand market nowadays, and thus, 2nd hand value plummets. The market will probably pick up again when the new M is released in the near future. Except - the value of the M240 will go drastically down.I sell and buy quite a lot. I see the market is pretty good.Note a few things: 1. There are some unrealistic prices being asked out there. They won't move fast, whether personal or dealer 2. The adverts that stick for some time on eBay tend to be the ones not priced to sell fast. You don't see the ones that are selling as they go quickly I sold an MP and a M240 in the last few months within a week or two. In terms of the M240 price, my experience on digital M moves is that they depreciate more in steps then smooth. The current M price, on average £3500 personal (boxed mint) and £3500-£3800 dealer (not M-P which is higher) is broadly taking into account the Leica discounts and new model within a year. When the new model comes out I expect a hundred or so less and a target of £3,000 (mint and boxed) 6 months to 1 year after new model. 2-3 years will see it go to £2,500 which I think you will see is in line with the M9. Lastly remember that lens prices go up and availability goes down when a new M is launched for a period of at least 1-2 years. Conversely they dip at the end of the lifetime of the M as demand is slightly reduced. Therefore if you want to buy lenses it's better to buy now before a new M is launched. It all depends very much on the condition and how fast the seller needs to sell. There are all sorts of exceptions. Finally remember you need to overlay inflation and living indexes on the top which causes everything to creep upwards. As an combined example I purchased a M9 last year, in a surfeit of nostalgia, for £1,700. Sold it for £2,000. Early this year M9 price moved to an unrealistic £2,500 but have now settled down to around he £2,000 mark again. Talking about excellent and boxed but not mint condition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big T Posted September 24, 2015 Share #71 Posted September 24, 2015 I don't regret it for a second! Mine was a 30th birthday present from my wife so she can't even complain about the cost! Mine was a 60th Birthday present and the good wife gets the new iPad Pro. Fair trade I reckon... :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted September 25, 2015 Share #72 Posted September 25, 2015 Mine was a 60th Birthday present and the good wife gets the new iPad Pro. Fair trade I reckon... :-) and mine was a 25th wedding anniversary present Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etk Posted February 3, 2017 Share #73 Posted February 3, 2017 Robert, thought I'd drag up this old thread and see how you were getting on with the Q. I'm seriously considering the exact same switch that you did (x100 > Q). Be good to hear your thoughts on it a year and a bit down the line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share #74 Posted February 3, 2017 Robert, thought I'd drag up this old thread and see how you were getting on with the Q. I'm seriously considering the exact same switch that you did (x100 > Q). Be good to hear your thoughts on it a year and a bit down the line?Hi, in the end I went for an m9. I tried them both and fell in love with the rangefinder and simplistic handling. I preferred a 50mm focal length and the ability to swap lenses is also a bonus. I figure if I trade up my m9 I can keep my cron still. The Q is a fine camera with beautiful results coming from it but, I figured my first Leica had to be a rangefinder. www.robertpoolephotography.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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