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I can't imagine scratching something like that, or getting a nice impression in the top, ugh. On the other hand I can't see babying an M3 (I know, I know). Either you're now a collector or you'll move it on to clear the debt. Or pay it down quickly to increase your ROI and put it in a safe. Keep us informed; we can watch this as an experiment. (FWIW, I would choose what lets me sleep at night.)

 

You're not screwed at all, really,

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It does look like a nice camera to own. I think you have to decide whether you are keeping it to use or minded to sell it (even if you are "collecting" or using it in the meantime). If the latter you will inevitably find that it won't make for the ideal camera to use because you will not treat it as freely as you would if you were committed to using it for the long term. You will always have the resale value of the camera at the back of your mind and that will likely inhibit your use of it. Still, nice problem to have.

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Both very nice but I sense that you're not going to be comfortable using either of them. You will de-value them by using them - collectors won't want them used, but then again you bought a camera to use didn't you. 

 

Sell both and buy a s/h M6. Keep them as 'investments'. Sell them both and spend the money on film and processing. Sod it and use them! 

 

So….what are you going to do?! 

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Interesting (in a nerdy way) that the MP3 shutter dial is notched even though it has an internal meter. I also didn't realise the LHSA MP3 had the exposed screws through the body covering – a nice aesthetic nod to the past that now also appears on the M-A.

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I would keep the MP3 set, sell everything else and use the heck out of it - it will surely last a life time.

I would get either a properly overhauled JoBo processor or a new JoBo CP3, buy a large freezer, stock on my favorite film, get the best scanner I could afford and be done with it. This would also be a great opportunity to source a nice trouble free enlarger, and start to learn wet printing.

 

All these niggles worries and issues with digitals would be over.

 

Congrats on the find, the MP3 clearly is the most beautiful and desirable option of the two.

 

Should you ever get tired of that 50mm, let me know ;-)

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Some of you are nuts. Yes a beat up camera in the short term isn't as valuable as a mint one - and at this point these are basically just used cameras. But if you take them out, shoot them, they get all brassed and nicked up - in 50 years the stories that accompany the camera will make it worth the same if not more as a cherry one (to the right person). If you love them and can realistically afford them (the money's already spent..) then keep and shoot them! Just make sure they're fully insured before they leave the house!

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Some of you are nuts ... 

 

Hmm, great way to start your first post on the forum ...

 

But yes, I agree cameras are for using rather than storing.  I do, though, try to take care of my stuff and I do sometimes pause for thought - "Is this really a good thing to do with a $16,500 camera?"

 

The critical issue is that while the MP3 is nice, it's a huge premium for no photographic benefit (other than feeling nice, but there are many other Leica cameras which feel nice).  The reasons for preferring this camera over others (at least as photographically capable) are its beauty, its rarity and its place in history (perhaps less so on the last point).  

 

Earl has a real problem - if he takes the camera out and uses it, he loses a huge part of the value he paid for the camera.  It will not be mint any longer to the people who would have paid the premium he paid for it.  It will be "just another used camera", but at a really big price penalty.  An a la carte MP or M7, with black paint will actually look just as fabulous, and he won't lose a moment's sleep over using it and adding that personal history you refer to.

 

Cheers

John

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Some of you are nuts. Yes a beat up camera in the short term isn't as valuable as a mint one - and at this point these are basically just used cameras. But if you take them out, shoot them, they get all brassed and nicked up - in 50 years the stories that accompany the camera will make it worth the same if not more as a cherry one (to the right person). If you love them and can realistically afford them (the money's already spent..) then keep and shoot them! Just make sure they're fully insured before they leave the house!

Nobody is nuts.

The reluctance and insecurity about making such an decision lays simply in the fact that these are cameras, essentially almost technically identical with a 1000 EUR second hand Leica M6 yet can be valued 10 times as much in the unused condition they are in now.

 

Every person with a brain would have at least a moment of reluctance making such a decision and some would probably ask fellow users for opinion before making one own's final decision.

 

Every good that is paid for still is valued in the balance sheet with a realistic value.

The notion of articles that are paid for magically loosing all of their monetary value is frankly incorrect, hence the hesitation to make a quick decision.

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Nobody is nuts.

The reluctance and insecurity about making such an decision lays simply in the fact that these are cameras, essentially almost technically identical with a 1000 EUR second hand Leica M6 yet can be valued 10 times as much in the unused condition they are in now.

 

Every person with a brain would have at least a moment of reluctance making such a decision and some would probably ask fellow users for opinion before making one own's final decision.

 

Every good that is paid for still is valued in the balance sheet with a realistic value.

The notion of articles that are paid for magically loosing all of their monetary value is frankly incorrect, hence the hesitation to make a quick decision.

Plus, the 'value' placed on such cameras is a value placed by others, and can be fluid if not outright fickle, even in the short term. Not so much the price, which is fixed on the books at the moment of sale and relies only on long term economic events to lessen its impact. Any person who realizes this will certainly have that full stop, last chance period of consideration; it's a good sign. If one was throwing away Benzes when the ashtrays were full it would be a different matter.

 

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That's basically it. It's been in the box mostly since I received it. Just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing before I begin to use it. Knowing the value and that it possibly could fetch a little bit more does cause moments of thought on what one could do with the money vs the experience of a truly perfect camera system (imo). The MP6 costs less than a a la carte MP and is not really a big hit. The MP3 could yield more complimentary options if sold (an M7, hasselblad with lens, etc), but... If one could forget the money as apparently people do buying digital with its guaranteed loss in value (M60, M-P240, etc) it would be a joy to use. 

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Imho, the MP6 is not as beautiful as the MP3. I would do some soul-searching and if you have a history of changing your mind, i.e. buying and selling things, then I would not keep the MP3. My feeling is that this is a film camera for life. It is definitely beautiful, but the difference to a standard MP is not that significant once it gets brassed.

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Update. I have decided to keep the MP3 as well as the black paint 35. I'm going to sell the MP6 and get something a little different as a second body. Any suggestions? A friend pointed me to the hammertone set which is nice, although I'm not sure having two 35 summicron asphs makes sense. 

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