W4Leica Posted April 26, 2015 Share #41 Posted April 26, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) You are right - she is the boss. But it's her innocent mistake. I put M9 on her lap while driving. When we got there, she forgot the camera when stepping out of the car. The loved one landed on the ground with "screaming". My heart went out the earth. But I was lucky that I had 50mm cron on the camera instead of noctilux 0.95 for daytime event. Lessons learnt with a price . BTW, she is still the boss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted April 26, 2015 Share #42 Posted April 26, 2015 From the car to the kerb. Why can’t the camera be repaired?? It happened to me twice. The first time there was a small scratch and the RF was out, the second time it had a small dent. My M8 fell six meters down a hill on to the rocks. Dented/bent bottom plate, cracked body shell, shutter broken, lens focusing stuck, etc. 1850 Euro and as new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted April 26, 2015 Share #43 Posted April 26, 2015 The only downside is that at 24 MP in monochrome, it is going to very handily show up the flaws of every lens you mount to it. Strange how people always believe that it's just the very next generation of cameras lurking right around the corner which is going to break lens capability. It happened when going up from three megapixels to six, and it probably will keep happening until we go up from 40 to 60 ... and beyond. If lenses do fine on an 18 MP sensor then why do you expect them to fail on 24 MP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indergaard Posted April 26, 2015 Share #44 Posted April 26, 2015 Hell yes.The M typ 240 architecture is much more pleasant to use than the M8/M9. That said, it's quite a job tying yourself to a mast when QM2s of the original are now selling for as low as $4,800 - but I keep telling myself there is no point in buying a camera just to replace it within a year. Also, I really want to get everything down to two types of Li-Ion batteries - the ones that go in the M240/M246 and the ones that go in the X100/X100T. Shallow? Yes. But frankly, there is a stress level that goes with charger clutter (and never having the right batteries charged). The only downside is that at 24mp in mono, it is going to very handily show up the flaws of every lens you mount to it. Dante It's going to show every flaw of the photographer more than the flaw of the lenses. Steady hands? Tripod? Camera shake? Too slow shutter speeds to keep the ISO lower than necessary? Etc, etc, etc. And at 24MP mono, it shouldn't be that bad. It should equal about 40mp in resolution for a sensor with a CFA. So all those rumored 50mp cameras from Sony and the like (and Canon, which has launched theirs) should still outresolve it. And those cameras should be more prone to the technical challenges of such a high resolution than the new mono at 24MP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted April 26, 2015 Share #45 Posted April 26, 2015 ... It should equal about 40mp in resolution for a sensor with a CFA. So all those rumored 50mp cameras from Sony and the like (and Canon, which has launched theirs) should still outresolve it. ... How do the AA filters in those cameras affect the comparison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted April 26, 2015 Share #46 Posted April 26, 2015 It's going to show every flaw of the photographer more than the flaw of the lenses. Steady hands? Tripod? Camera shake? Too slow shutter speeds to keep the ISO lower than necessary? Etc, etc, etc. And at 24MP mono, it shouldn't be that bad. It should equal about 40mp in resolution for a sensor with a CFA. So all those rumored 50mp cameras from Sony and the like (and Canon, which has launched theirs) should still outresolve it. And those cameras should be more prone to the technical challenges of such a high resolution than the new mono at 24MP. The fear of high resolution is somewhat misplaced in my experience at least. I do not find the 36mp no AA Nikon D800e to be any harder to use than any other camera of similar type and I've gotten good results with less than the best of Nikon lenses -- especially the 28-300 which is not nearly as good as the good Nikon primes. Slow shutter speeds on a heavy DSLR with a mirror flipping up and down are not easy, period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted April 26, 2015 Share #47 Posted April 26, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) It's going to show every flaw of the photographer more than the flaw of the lenses. Steady hands? Tripod? Camera shake? Too slow shutter speeds to keep the ISO lower than necessary? Etc, etc, etc. ...................................... I'll tell you what it will show up: the misguided notion that a dull photo becomes artistically interesting when it's in B&W. Fortunately, Leica users are largely immune to such folly, and only resort to B&W when there's a creatively compelling reason to do so. (Here's a pinch of salt, ready for when you feel the need to take it.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted April 26, 2015 Share #48 Posted April 26, 2015 The 24mp MM will be no sharper than the 18mp MM. Just like the M240 isn't any sharper than the M9. I could see the difference between older and newer lenses of the same focal length on my M9. And as others have mentioned, it requires perfect technique to get the maximum out of what the MM can resolve. The fear of lens obsolescence because of new sensors is largely unfounded. The reality is that many photographers have reverted to using old lenses like the 50cron Rigid on the MM because the MM sensor is so good that it brings out the subtle qualities of those lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 26, 2015 Share #49 Posted April 26, 2015 I can tell you having a higher pixel count i.e. 36MP it is harder to get tak sharp pictures but when you do they have the wow factor. My wife has just spent the day at a kids monk ceremony with her Sony a7r and 50mm 1.8 which I already know is a very sharp lens but all her pictures are soft due to movement of the kids and low light i.e. indoors in the day time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 26, 2015 Share #50 Posted April 26, 2015 And perhaps soft due to camera technique too. One must keep the speed high at my age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
W4Leica Posted April 27, 2015 Share #51 Posted April 27, 2015 From the car to the kerb. Why can’t the camera be repaired?? It happened to me twice. The first time there was a small scratch and the RF was out, the second time it had a small dent. My M8 fell six meters down a hill on to the rocks. Dented/bent bottom plate, cracked body shell, shutter broken, lens focusing stuck, etc. 1850 Euro and as new. Jappv, Sorry to hear your experience. I am still evaluating the condition of M9. It has a big dent at the top edge by ranger finder. The camera cannot focus at infinity. But the bigger issue seems it has buffering issue or heart attack - the sensor issue because of dark or striped pictures. I want to understand myself before sending out. I hope it can be fixed per spec. On the flip side, I have an excuse to get a new one as I said before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdg1371 Posted April 27, 2015 Share #52 Posted April 27, 2015 It's going to show every flaw of the photographer more than the flaw of the lenses. Steady hands? Tripod? Camera shake? Too slow shutter speeds to keep the ISO lower than necessary? Etc, etc, etc. And at 24MP mono, it shouldn't be that bad. It should equal about 40mp in resolution for a sensor with a CFA. So all those rumored 50mp cameras from Sony and the like (and Canon, which has launched theirs) should still outresolve it. And those cameras should be more prone to the technical challenges of such a high resolution than the new mono at 24MP. This is one one them main selling points for me-- higher resolution, but still 24MP, so it should still handle technical challenges like a 24MP camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted April 27, 2015 Share #53 Posted April 27, 2015 There is more to sharpness than resolution. The Monochrom has "bite" to the images that I missed ever since I upgraded from the M8 to the M9. The M8, despite lower resolution had a wonderful per-pixel sharpness due to its weak UV/IR filter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 27, 2015 Share #54 Posted April 27, 2015 Jappv, Sorry to hear your experience. I am still evaluating the condition of M9. It has a big dent at the top edge by ranger finder. The camera cannot focus at infinity. But the bigger issue seems it has buffering issue or heart attack - the sensor issue because of dark or striped pictures. I want to understand myself before sending out. I hope it can be fixed per spec. On the flip side, I have an excuse to get a new one as I said before Maybe one of the flex connectors has been jarred loose, You cannot assess the damage withot taking the camera apart. Even if you buy another camera it is nearly impossible that the cost of repair would be more than the price you would get for a repaired camera on selling it. Why not send it in and see what the estimate is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicatraveller Posted April 28, 2015 Share #55 Posted April 28, 2015 This revelation will strike fear into the hearts of wives around the world. sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 29, 2015 Share #56 Posted April 29, 2015 It will be putting joy into my wife's heart as once obtained she does not have to hear me discussing about getting one any longer. http://blog.leica-camera.com/photographers/interviews/louis-foubare-fluidity-and-unpredictability-in-street-photography/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted May 3, 2015 Share #57 Posted May 3, 2015 :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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