David Monkhouse Posted May 15, 2007 Share #1 Posted May 15, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) This seems to be the best for storing pictures whilst on holiday with the M8. From the downloaded handbook it would appear that using the AV facility, pictures and slide shows with music can be viewed on a television. Has anyone any experience of this and if so what quality of picture can one expect with a 10m file. Presumably its worse than on a flat screen monitor but by how much. David... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tashley Posted May 15, 2007 Share #2 Posted May 15, 2007 This seems to be the best for storing pictures whilst on holiday with the M8. From the downloaded handbook it would appear that using the AV facility, pictures and slide shows with music can be viewed on a television. Has anyone any experience of this and if so what quality of picture can one expect with a 10m file. Presumably its worse than on a flat screen monitor but by how much. David... I don't think it works with M8 RAW, just jpeg... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Monkhouse Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted May 15, 2007 Tim, Thanks for that, I intend adding jpg to the raw to view and check. Using the widescreen television downstairs would seem better than dragging all upstairs to view on the computer. Changed to Zenfolio after viewing your gallery, would you mind commenting on the M8 shots at the end of "Derbyshire", I have not yet received the UV filters and I think it shows. Zenfolio | David Monkhouse | a year in the county of Derbyshire David... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted May 15, 2007 Share #4 Posted May 15, 2007 Tim,Thanks for that, I intend adding jpg to the raw to view and check. Using the widescreen television downstairs would seem better than dragging all upstairs to view on the computer. Changed to Zenfolio after viewing your gallery, would you mind commenting on the M8 shots at the end of "Derbyshire", I have not yet received the UV filters and I think it shows. Zenfolio | David Monkhouse | a year in the county of Derbyshire David... Hi David, Not sure how they'll look on the widescreen, but an M8 is overkill for that sort of use though obviously good as an insurance policy should you then have shots that you want to sell or to print up large! My feeling on those viewer thingies is that you might as well spend a little more and carry something slightly larger and take an ultraportable laptop but we all have different needs... Your shots of Derbyshire are good and are already building into quite a series, but as you say there's something odd going on with all the M8 images and I don't think it is the use of or lack of filters that is to blame: in these sorts of shots, the greens would be the thing to quibble over (see Jono's thread: in summary it seems to be a matter not also of exactly what sort of foliage but also of individual perception which shooting method best suits greens) but there's more going wrong than the greens here. If you are able to share exact shooting and PP info, I might be able to have a guess... Best Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted May 15, 2007 Share #5 Posted May 15, 2007 I have a 4000 and a 5000 and use them with my DMRs and M8s. They are efficicient, reliable and obviate the need for a burdensome laptop. As mentionned they store but don't show the RAW/DNG files. Epson is not interested in adding an upgrade for the microscopic Leica community... Nevertheless the RAW/DNG files will download flawlessly on your PC when you return home. My only point to you is why would you want to use the Epson for the M8? A 2GB card will store 187 RAW files or 500+ JPEGs. Unless you are shooting thousands of files, wouldn't a few SD cards suffice? :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted May 15, 2007 Share #6 Posted May 15, 2007 Unless you are shooting thousands of files, wouldn't a few SD cards suffice? :confused: Although I don't shoot with an M8, I have found the LCD on my Epson P-2000 to be a much better match for my monitor at home than the LCD on my Panasonic DMC-L1 (aka D3). In addition to using my P-2000 to store images from my SD cards, I also carry it with me while I'm shooting and routinely use it to preview my images for both composition and exposure while I still have the ability to reshoot them. I find this prevents any surprises later and frankly, I find the P-2000 better suited for this purpose than my ultra-portable notebook since it's hard to get an accurate preview of exposure on the notebook screen because the image brightness varies considerably with the angle at which it's viewed, something that's much less of a problem with the P-2000... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe S Posted May 15, 2007 Share #7 Posted May 15, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) [quote name=My only point to you is why would you want to use the Epson for the M8? A 2GB card will store 187 RAW files or 500+ JPEGs. Unless you are shooting thousands of files' date=' wouldn't a few SD cards suffice? :confused:[/quote] Using P2000 is a great way to back up your files on the road. Lots of SD cards still only provide one copy of your images and if a card has problems the images backed up on the Epson are safe and readily available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted May 15, 2007 Share #8 Posted May 15, 2007 I use an Epson P-4000 for archiving my D2X and M8 images. As mentioned, the trick is create a DNG and JPG file and then have both transferred to the Epson device. The advantage is that you don't need a full resolution JPG because the histogram and image view/zoom functions work very well with compressed JPG files. There's definitely an advantage in being able to review images on a decent sized LCD and to remove obviously bad images early on in the workflow. You won't see the DNG files rendered but they are stored. My workflow is typically to take each SD card and archive to the P-4000 every time I change cards. The cards then go into circulation and get erased whenever I need them back in the camera. I transfer the images from the Epson to my Mac when I return home or at the end of the day. I never remove images from the P-4000 until it's full, where upon I'll clear out the oldest images (normally months old). Do I need the image preview functionality? Probably not. Does it help on the road with avoiding dragging a laptop around all the time? Certainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted May 16, 2007 Share #9 Posted May 16, 2007 get an archos cheaper, much bigger capacity smaller size and does a million other things as well including better sound quality than any apple product Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted May 16, 2007 Share #10 Posted May 16, 2007 get an archos So far as I can see, they don't read SD cards, which means you 1) have to carry a USB cable with you to transfer images from the camera, and 2) while it's transferring images, you have to twiddle your thumbs because the camera can't be used. Definitely not for me, thank you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetDraakje Posted May 16, 2007 Share #11 Posted May 16, 2007 I'm a control freak, and as I have lost data once, I carry a laptop to transfer files Raw+JPG to the harddisk. Then I back the JPG-files up to a CFcard, just to have pictures if the harddisk fails (then of course the original CF can be deleted to shoot again). My question is? Does anyone know how easy it is to transfer the JPG files to another CF? Does one have to select each file separately and manually, or can you automatically select all JPG at once and transfer them? Boen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted May 16, 2007 Share #12 Posted May 16, 2007 so carry the spare lead.... if you are carrying a camera, lenses, some lens cloth, a bag, filters etc.. a small 20 gramm lead isn't going to make much difference. And why would you possibly want to transfer images AND shoot at the same time.... is this for some sort of Actuation Marathon competition ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted May 16, 2007 Share #13 Posted May 16, 2007 And why would you possibly want to transfer images AND shoot at the same time.... is this for some sort of Actuation Marathon competition ? It takes 7-8 minutes to empty an SD card into the Epson P-2000, but it's not a big deal because that happens in the background while I continue shooting with another card. Not so if I'm transferring images via USB (and I don't think you can dump 2GB of images via USB that quickly, so the wait with the Archos is likely to be even longer still). I'm not a machine-gunner by any stretch of the imagination -- my primary camera is an 8x10 view camera, if that gives you any idea of my preferred pace! -- but standing around and waiting for my camera to download images doesn't appeal to me very much even I don't have an immediate need to be photographing something and certainly not if the primary benefit is saving a few bucks on a one-time purchase... That said, horses for courses and if the Archos approach works for you, that's great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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