erlingmm Posted March 14, 2015 Share #1 Posted March 14, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) An interesting article in WSJ on Leica surviving the digital shift: Camera Maker Leica Survives the Digital Shift - WSJ I noted this sentence towards the end of the article: "For Leica, that means products like two high-quality cameras that are larger than the M series—and priced between $16,900 and $25,400 without a lens—that will soon hit the market." Two cameras larger than the M? Could this mean that the new S will come in 2 variants? Maybe one entry level S-E without 4k video, tethering etc, and one full fledged? Or is there another way to understand this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 Hi erlingmm, Take a look here WSJ article on Leica - new S models?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
RVB Posted March 14, 2015 Share #2 Posted March 14, 2015 There are two S models already confirmed.. S (cmos) and SE (CCD). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted March 14, 2015 Share #3 Posted March 14, 2015 Ah, just posted a question about this on the Customer Forum. Thanks for answering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted March 14, 2015 There are two S models already confirmed.. S (cmos) and SE (CCD). So the CCD will continue as the current S-E model? Do you have an official link to this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted March 14, 2015 Share #5 Posted March 14, 2015 Hi Erling, it's official all right: About the S-System // Leica S // Photography - Leica Camera AG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted March 14, 2015 Hi Erling, it's official all right: About the S-System // Leica S // Photography - Leica Camera AG Well, but does it say explicitly that the SE with CCD will be continued when the 007 with CMOS is released? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 14, 2015 Share #7 Posted March 14, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Seems that the S-E is basically a Typ 006 (sold initially as the S2), with some minor cosmetic updates. Pretty clever marketing if it sells, as unused S2 models were selling as low as $10,000 though reputable Leica sources, while the S-E is listed at $16,900. Typical Leica. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted March 14, 2015 Share #8 Posted March 14, 2015 Well, but does it say explicitly that the SE with CCD will be continued when the 007 with CMOS is released? Yes, scroll down. Even more info about both cameras here: http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2014/09/photokina-2014-day-2-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-leica-s-typ-007/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted March 14, 2015 Seems that the S-E is basically a Typ 006 (sold initially as the S2), with some minor cosmetic updates. Pretty clever marketing if it sells, as unused S2 models were selling as low as $10,000 though reputable Leica sources, while the S-E is listed at $16,900. Typical Leica. Jeff The S-E is an upgraded model in many ways compared to the S2. It is a variant of the S(006) with some pro functions omitted. Good deal, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 14, 2015 Share #10 Posted March 14, 2015 The S-E is an upgraded model in many ways compared to the S2. It is a variant of the S(006) with some pro functions omitted. Good deal, in my opinion. Apparently so…I should have described it as a modified S, not S2, in which case the lower cost is perhaps better….for now, anyway, as new S models have so far resulted in very quick and steep depreciation of the older model. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted March 14, 2015 Share #11 Posted March 14, 2015 Apparently so…I should have described it as a modified S, not S2, in which case the lower cost is perhaps better….for now, anyway, as new S models have so far resulted in very quick and steep depreciation of the older model. Jeff ...like almost all digital cameras and backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted March 14, 2015 Apparently so…I should have described it as a modified S, not S2, in which case the lower cost is perhaps better….for now, anyway, as new S models have so far resulted in very quick and steep depreciation of the older model. Jeff I find it remarkable and a recognition of the strength of the system that a 7 year old design still sells for +10.000 usd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted March 15, 2015 Share #13 Posted March 15, 2015 The S-E is an upgraded model in many ways compared to the S2. It is a variant of the S(006) with some pro functions omitted. Good deal, in my opinion. What pro functions were omitted? I wasn't aware of omissions, only cosmetic variation(s) of the the S(006). Leica Store Miami has used S(006) and S-E, $10k, consignments. Currently, the lower prices of the lenses and bodies has me wondering if Leica will discontinue the S system, the 007 has not shipped, nor does Leica feel inclined to compete with FF or medium format resolution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted March 15, 2015 What pro functions were omitted? I wasn't aware of omissions, only cosmetic variation(s) of the the S(006). Leica Store Miami has used S(006) and S-E, $10k, consignments. Currently, the lower prices of the lenses and bodies has me wondering if Leica will discontinue the S system, the 007 has not shipped, nor does Leica feel inclined to compete with FF or medium format resolution. I can't find the details right now, but I think maybe the guarantee is a bit shorter for the S-E than the S, possibly also tethering omitted? The S007 is scheduled to ship in Q2, which we have just entered, no delay has been announced. Rebates just before a new model is quite common. My understanding is that the S system has been selling better that expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted March 15, 2015 Share #15 Posted March 15, 2015 What pro functions were omitted? I wasn't aware of omissions, only cosmetic variation(s) of the the S(006). Leica Store Miami has used S(006) and S-E, $10k, consignments. Currently, the lower prices of the lenses and bodies has me wondering if Leica will discontinue the S system, the 007 has not shipped, nor does Leica feel inclined to compete with FF or medium format resolution. No need to create FUD and misinform people. I really don't understand how you come to write this. The 007S is scheduled for spring 2015, read the links I posted. There is no doomsday for the S system. Now where did you find the lower prices of the lenses and bodies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 15, 2015 Share #16 Posted March 15, 2015 I find it remarkable and a recognition of the strength of the system that a 7 year old design still sells for +10.000 usd Reminds me of the old joke of how to make a small fortune…..start out with a large fortune. Not so amazing to me given the starting point, and the number of people who wanted one early on, but couldn't bear the financial burden. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted March 15, 2015 Share #17 Posted March 15, 2015 No need to create FUD and misinform people. I really don't understand how you come to write this. The 007S is scheduled for spring 2015, read the links I posted. There is no doomsday for the S system. Now where did you find the lower prices of the lenses and bodies? That is why I used the phrase "has me wondering"....strictly my conjecture, it wasn't a statement of fact. I don't understand how a conjecture could be misinterpreted as misinformation. You also state there is no doomsday for the S system, that is a statement of fact, do you have any information to substantiate this or is it conjecture on your part? The Leica S (007) was introduced at Photokina, 6 months ago, that is a long gestation period in the digital age, they have potentially reduced sales of the current model(s).....the Osborne Effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted March 15, 2015 Share #18 Posted March 15, 2015 FUD - fear, uncertainty and doubt ... There is no reason to support your "conjecture", whereas the S is in production and gets upgrades and support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted March 16, 2015 Share #19 Posted March 16, 2015 Currently, the lower prices of the lenses and bodies has me wondering if Leica will discontinue the S system, the 007 has not shipped, nor does Leica feel inclined to compete with FF or medium format resolution. As far as I know it was clear from beginning the S 007 would not ship directly after announcement. I dont know why Leica should discontinue the S-System. I dont under stand your last sentence. Do you mean Leica is not joining the MP-Race of sensors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted March 16, 2015 Share #20 Posted March 16, 2015 I don't understand how a conjecture could be misinterpreted as misinformation. Whatever, I'm not going to feed the trolling. Currently, the lower prices of the lenses and bodies has me wondering if Leica will discontinue the S system ... That's creating FUD, in my book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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