Laundry lists and wake-up time

[Shootist]

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I agree, with the filters it´s not a big thing anymore. But it was trouble for Leica, it took time and resources to fix it. All I wanted to say is that the next generation of sensor which is build in wathever M or R camera model is not going to have the same problem. Why should they make faults twice?

 

Well I think it is a normal problem for all digital camera. All makers place heavy IR cut and AA filter in front of the sensor to try and correct for IR contamination and moire. For whatever reason, which has been covered many times in this forum, Leica chose not to place such a heavy filter in front of the sensor of the M8 to preserve the overall image quality.

 

Whether the future sensor/cover glass technology can overcome this is yet to be seen.

 

Yes it did cost Leica some money, time and a few customers. But if they had not come out with the M8 I don't think they would of survived for much longer. And the few people that didn't buy a M8 because of the IR NON problem are just losing out on a great M camera.

[Guest guy_mancuso]

Besides the IR isssue which in this case was something they could not do internally becuase of design , the big factor is the AA filter which leica decided not to do with the DMR and M8 is a great advantage than a disadvantage in my mind. i much rather have nothing between the glass and the sensor and putting a heavy AA filter just degrades the image.

[Shootist]

Besides the IR isssue which in this case was something they could not do internally becuase of design , the big factor is the AA filter which leica decided not to do with the DMR and M8 is a great advantage than a disadvantage in my mind. i much rather have noting between the glass and the sensor and putting a heavy AA filter just degrades the image.

 

You are so right Guy. I have a Nikon D200 and when I first got it I said "Something is wrong with this camera", "focus is off or something". After a trip to Nikon service for a recorded and acknowledged focusing problem it got better but never to the quality I expected from a 10MP camera. It was the AA filter on the sensor. I can still see it even in images that I have sharpened. There is just a blur to the images.

 

The Nikon was my first digital Pro/semi-Pro SLR, my second digital camera, I did buy a P&S Canon back in 2003-4, and my first SLR since 1972.

[Guest guy_mancuso]

Yes i came from Canon and almost every model plus the D200 so i know exactly what you are saying. They all HAVE to be sharpened. Leica does not and if i do I am very careful about the amount with leica the detail is awesome but sometimes like portraits you have to tone things down which is much better than trying to get things sharper.

 

Honestly the IR issue is really not a issue after you finally settle into what is going on and understand why it is there. yes no one is happy about the filters but there is a very valid reason and some folks can't get past the design issues and that's fine. i have no desire to hash that out 6 million more times. If folks can't find the true value of the M8 than so be it and don't buy it. My concern and always will be my goal is bottom line image quality and how the heck i get there means really nothing , just as long as i deliver results and clients could care less about filters or anything else for that matter

[wparsonsgisnet]

I noticed a problem this weekend when shooting some dance.

 

If the buffer is full when I press the shutter release, I get nice tactile feedback when the shutter does not go BUT the camera remembers that I pressed the shutter and takes a picture when the buffer gets some room.

 

This is NOT (repeat -- NOT) what I would like. I prefer to have the camera take pictures when I ask it to -- not when it feels like doing so. Of course, when it takes an unnecessary picture, it fills the buffer again!

 

This did not happen in earlier versions of the firmware.

 

If the buffer is full, please:

1. Don't take a picture.

2. Don't save the request to take a picture.