IkarusJohn Posted February 27, 2015 Share #121 Posted February 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I agree entirely with everything that Winedonium writes above. However, I do believe that for Leica, and as a product, it's a dumb idea. However, I certainly wouldn't begrudge anyone buying one, particularly if they used it for what it is intended to do - take pictures. But then, it would not stop me wondering why that person wouldn't just buy a black paint M(240), and wear in their own braising, or take to it with wet and dry sandpaper (like another member of the forum some years ago). I'd be interested if anyone here plans on buying one. I took considerable time explaining why I liked the M60, and those reasons have proven to be valid. If you just like the look, fair enough. Doesn't do it for me, but I'm not passing judgement on you - just expressing my opinion of the idea. Cheers John PS - Jeff cross-posted. No, you really have completely the wrong idea. The white glove unboxing was supposed to be ironic (I guess I made that less than clear). In my earlier comments, I said that the White gloves put me off. Hence the picture. I'm not really confident that I can disabuse you of this idea you have, so I'll leave it there, I think. It's really not that interesting and I'll just repeat myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Hi IkarusJohn, Take a look here Lenny Kravitz Edition - cool, pretentious, or hoax?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pgk Posted February 27, 2015 Share #122 Posted February 27, 2015 My camera and lens costs almost as much as my car... and I'm not a wealthy person. See my post 103. I bought my car with the idea of running it until it was scrap and I'm succeeding 155k miles, never washed (but scrupuluosly serviced;)). Its value now? Hmmm, probably considerably less than my M8-2, but who cares? Although it does have patina, loads of it ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 27, 2015 Share #123 Posted February 27, 2015 We all know how expensive normal Leica cameras are so who are we kidding about this edition (and all the others)? My camera and lens costs almost as much as my car... and I'm not a wealthy person. Some people go wide eyed at the cost if I bother mentioning it. In technical diving, you are considered to be a fanatic, if you divinggear exeeds the price of your car.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted February 27, 2015 Share #124 Posted February 27, 2015 In technical diving, you are considered to be a fanatic, if you divinggear exeeds the price of your car.. My (non-tekkie - I'm not that crazy) dive gear has patina too (like the car, well-serviced annually) and probably still exceeds the value of my car - is that worrying? Funny isn't it that patina on some items like cameras can increase the price but on most (of my) gear it actually reduces value. Funny old world:D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnfell Posted February 27, 2015 Share #125 Posted February 27, 2015 I think it is a beautiful set. 35 cron and 50 lux are are probably the two most popular leica lenses ATM. BUT. I think they should let the brassing up to the customer to brass for him/herself. The marketing picture should say "this is how YOURS could look like of you get your @$$ out and make some pictures". to sum up: Set: thumbs up Factory-brassing: thumbs down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMaber Posted February 27, 2015 Share #126 Posted February 27, 2015 its just a mediocre guitarist (poundland hendrix) and a mediocre photographer (Facebook fodder). WHY WHY WHY? I guess he's a minor celeb, could probably get on US apprentice, but he's really nothing special. I can't see how collectors or someone with money could give a shit about this. And call ing it some kind of homage to reportage cameras of the grand days of Leica? Really? Leica continugin to jump the shark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted February 27, 2015 Share #127 Posted February 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Some people get far too wound up about these special editions. It's Leica making a very limited run for people who might like this kind of thing. I am sure they do not make much money but they keep Leicas name in the news considering they release models less frequently then other manufacturers (a good thing). Just relax and have some fun man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Focus Posted February 27, 2015 Share #128 Posted February 27, 2015 I can understand non-mainstream editions like the M60 without a back screen. I wish they did that for the M9 with a reasonable price tag (shouldn't no screen and lack of features cost less?!) but this Lenny edition is ridiculous. If you want your Leica to show brass then go use it. This edition like most of the others are for celebrities but if selling these at a high price allows that money to go into R&D and keeps Leica in business for a long time then it's a necessary evil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdk Posted February 27, 2015 Share #129 Posted February 27, 2015 Now that Leica has an official page on this edition, I'd like to say I think their image samples of a LEICA M-P ‘CORRESPONDENT’ look pretty obviously not like a camera and lenses worn by actual use. The 35mm/2 in the example has a huge brassing area just clockwise of the focus tab, an area that would naturally be protected from that kind of abrasion in the real world. The 50mm/1.4 is more subtly and realistically done. This really is like those modern wabi-sabi Japanese tea bowls that are deliberately chipped or even broken ad repaired with gold to make them look old. It's an aesthetic I can sometimes appreciate, but it seems that the techs doing this edition have some uneven ideas about what they are supposed to be achieving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdk Posted February 27, 2015 Share #130 Posted February 27, 2015 Still waiting on the M Typ 360 or M Typ 500. Maybe Leica Camera AG can use the profits from this The Leica M-P ‘Correspondent’ edition to speed development of cameras that have a sensor that will provide the benefits of oversampling and reduced moire to the excellent Leica M, Zeiss ZM and other high-res lenses available for their mount. I can't see the photojournalists I've met like Loup Langton, Dominic Chavez and Louie Palu using this camera, though I know Loup likes Leicas. Dominic tried the M Typ 240 and found its buffer inadequate to the speed he likes to shoot. Maybe the M-P would work better for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted February 27, 2015 Share #131 Posted February 27, 2015 The day cannot be very far distant when the first camera is sent back to Leica for repainting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted February 27, 2015 Share #132 Posted February 27, 2015 its just a mediocre guitarist (poundland hendrix) and a mediocre photographer (Facebook fodder). WHY WHY WHY?I guess he's a minor celeb, could probably get on US apprentice, but he's really nothing special. I can't see how collectors or someone with money could give a shit about this. And call ing it some kind of homage to reportage cameras of the grand days of Leica? Really? Leica continugin to jump the shark Well Leica did an over the top advertising on this camera but those insults on Lenny was uncalled for. He's a great guitarist and he happens to enjoy photography. He's not making groundbreaking images but they're better than a lot of self proclaimed pros out there. If you were given an opportunity to do a special edition with Leica I'm sure you'd take the opportunity and unfortunately there will be people out there who will judge your aesthetics the same way you judged his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 27, 2015 Share #133 Posted February 27, 2015 Still waiting on the M Typ 360 or M Typ 500. Maybe Leica Camera AG can use the profits from this The Leica M-P ‘Correspondent’ edition to speed development of cameras that have a sensor that will provide the benefits of oversampling and reduced moire to the excellent Leica M, Zeiss ZM and other high-res lenses available for their mount. I can't see the photojournalists I've met like Loup Langton, Dominic Chavez and Louie Palu using this camera, though I know Loup likes Leicas. Dominic tried the M Typ 240 and found its buffer inadequate to the speed he likes to shoot. Maybe the M-P would work better for him. Still waiting? The M Typ 240 has not been on the market for three years.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venkman Posted February 27, 2015 Share #134 Posted February 27, 2015 I like the looks of it, but a premium of over 9000 Euros for a strap, a wriststrap and a suitcase along with the manual labor that went into the "scruffworks" appears a bit steep for me. That brings me to a thought I had when I've read the "How to cure your GAS" article and saw the (cool looking) M9 Titanium there: why would anyone invest in a special edition of an electronic gadget? I reckon the M9Ti has the potential for sensor problems as all M9 does? As ugly as some of the older special editions (Hello Brunei!) were, the all should still function or at least can function after being serviced. But who here really trusts in the "lifelong spare part" promises? I heard two stories about M9 being serviced, sensor problem and other problems found, repair or upgrade to new M240 (for a modest fee) offered. That is a good solution for standard cameras, but not really a path that's feasible for limited editions, is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted February 27, 2015 Share #135 Posted February 27, 2015 If you want your Leica to show brass then go use it. The late Larry Burrows' camera. Earned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMaber Posted February 27, 2015 Share #136 Posted February 27, 2015 Well Leica did an over the top advertising on this camera but those insults on Lenny was uncalled for. He's a great guitarist and he happens to enjoy photography. He's not making groundbreaking images but they're better than a lot of self proclaimed pros out there. If you were given an opportunity to do a special edition with Leica I'm sure you'd take the opportunity and unfortunately there will be people out there who will judge your aesthetics the same way you judged his. Its an opinion and my opinion is that he's a below grad d 'celeb', largely copied Hendrix's chops and I really fail to understand how this benefits Leica's brand. Its just quite bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 27, 2015 Share #137 Posted February 27, 2015 its just a mediocre guitarist (poundland hendrix) and a mediocre photographer (Facebook fodder). WHY WHY WHY?I guess he's a minor celeb, could probably get on US apprentice, but he's really nothing special. I can't see how collectors or someone with money could give a shit about this. And call ing it some kind of homage to reportage cameras of the grand days of Leica? Really? Leica continugin to jump the shark You really want to post something this hateful? Why not start here Dear Guitar Hero: Lenny Kravitz Talks Vintage Gear, 'Let Love Rule' and New Album, 'Strut' | Guitar World and then google around and you'll find out that Lenny is the perfect retro kind of artist that is perfect for this Leica camera. Educate yourself about the guy before you judge and hate. Audiophiles might want to get Strut. An absolutely stunning sounding album and an incredible piece of work... all instruments played by Lenny. Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 27, 2015 Share #138 Posted February 27, 2015 You know, this could have all been so different if, we were more positive. Maybe, next time we could start out and invite someone like Lenny to post here his experience with his M and with Leica. Get his point of view of what this camera means to him. Lenny, Consider this an invitation and I think you would be surprised how much positive support and interaction you would get from the forum in general. Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 27, 2015 Share #139 Posted February 27, 2015 You really want to post something this hateful? Why not start here Dear Guitar Hero: Lenny Kravitz Talks Vintage Gear, 'Let Love Rule' and New Album, 'Strut' | Guitar World and then google around and you'll find out that Lenny is the perfect retro kind of artist that is perfect for this Leica camera. Educate yourself about the guy before you judge and hate. Audiophiles might want to get Strut. An absolutely stunning sounding album and an incredible piece of work... all instruments played by Lenny. Rick And according to LFI this month he makes ok photographs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 27, 2015 Share #140 Posted February 27, 2015 ... But who here really trusts in the "lifelong spare part" promises? I heard two stories about M9 being serviced, sensor problem and other problems found, repair or upgrade to new M240 (for a modest fee) offered. That is a good solution for standard cameras, but not really a path that's feasible for limited editions, is it? This is a worry. In my case, the premium for a camera I wanted was relatively modest. I'm nota collector. Acquisitive, yes, but not a collector. I'm hoping to get a lot of use out of my M60, and in the end, I rather hope it looks like one of Brian Brake's http://www.tepapa.govt.nz/WhatsOn/exhibitions/BrianBrake/Brakeswork/Pages/Object.aspx?irn=1013622 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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