Lenshacker Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share #21 Posted February 16, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I prefer the graphical representation of "curves". "Levels" has the advantage of displaying the intensity histogram. Both are very useful, well worth exploring. and CS2 is free...runs on Win7 without problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Hi Lenshacker, Take a look here M8 Raw mode comparison with the M Monochrom and M9. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted February 16, 2015 Share #22 Posted February 16, 2015 CS2 is really obsolete. Nearly all tools have been improved considerably, some vastly. Not to mention all additions, just process 2012 alone is worth an upgrade. At least get a used copy of CS5 or better CS6.Your images will show it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T44ISKN Posted February 17, 2015 Share #23 Posted February 17, 2015 Levels is nothing more than simplified curves with just three control points. Thanks - I was actually enquiring about the Blacks slider in ACR, not Levels. Elements doesn't offer Curves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share #24 Posted February 17, 2015 I don't use ACR. The best I can offer- experiment with it. Since the CS2 is free, you can try it "no-cost". You can pick up a more modern version if you like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wk Posted February 17, 2015 Share #25 Posted February 17, 2015 Another Edit of the ISO5000 equivalent shot, Auto-Color then curves. This is the free version of CS2, Photoshop has had "Curves" in it at least since 3.0. I'm not sure if Elements has it. LR does not. Lightroom does have curves. It's called Tone Curve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share #26 Posted February 17, 2015 "Tones" in the "Develop" section of LR works. I like curves better as it indicates the setpoints. That- and I'm just used to it, for over 20 years. LR4_Adjust BUT- randomly pointing and clicking until it looks the way I want wins out once more. I've been using Auto-Color in CS2, followed by some adjustment in Curves. With LR4- I played with Tones and the Histogram as shown. It seems to give good color balance. Again- experimentation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share #27 Posted February 18, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Lightroom does have curves. It's called Tone Curve. And this is why discussion forums are a great thing. http://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/imprint_downloads/peachpit/peachpit/lightroom3/pdfs/LRCurves.pdf Tones and Curves are different between Photoshop and Lightroom. Reading about the differences, Lightroom Tones attempts to preserve color balance. I am going to experiment with it some more, will post back results and most likely add a section to the PDF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share #28 Posted February 20, 2015 Skate and Fun Zone ISO1250 eqv. I took my daughter skating today, brought the M8 and Monochrom along. Took ~150 pictures using M8RAW, all shots with the lights on shot at Base ISO and -3ev, ISO1250 equivalent. The Disco-Lights, Most are 4stops under and some are 5 stops under. I used "just Lightroom" exposure compensation and "Sync" to batch process file files. This whole process did not take long. Some would do better with some tweeking, none done here. ISO2500 eqv, F1.5 at 1/30th. It was dark. Skate and Fun Zone LR_3ev_Exposure_Batch1 LR_3ev_Exposure_Sync Default settings used for LR noise reduction as before, Color:25; Detail:50; Luminance:0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share #29 Posted February 20, 2015 5 Stops under ISO5000 eqv, this one could use some tweeking- Certainly understand AWB confusion! Skate and Fun Zone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndf9 Posted February 21, 2015 Share #30 Posted February 21, 2015 it's not easy taking this shots under this light condition especially for focussing and panning manually Thank you for your tips how to tweak the underexposed pictures too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seforeman Posted February 21, 2015 Share #31 Posted February 21, 2015 Is there a way to set the M8 to always capture RAW, as I read on another forum that the mode has to be set each time you power up the camera (by going into service mode). Thanks in advance Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share #32 Posted February 21, 2015 Stuart- I wish there were a way to do this, but it would require changing the firmware in the camera. Basically the "button Dance" puts the camera into a diagnostic mode where the extra mode is available. Leica would have to make this change, or the firmware would have to be "hacked". Two more at ISO1250eqv, wide-open at F1.5 Skate and Fun Zone Skate and Fun Zone And at ISO2500eqv, also F1.5. Skate and Fun Zone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share #33 Posted February 21, 2015 "Tweeked", Fluorescent chosen for color balance, Luminosity set to 25, Detail 25. This is ISO160 -5ev, ISO5000 equivalent. iso5000eqv_balanced_NR_used 1/60th and F1.5, it was dark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share #34 Posted February 21, 2015 The Monochrom, ISO10000, 1/90th sec, F1.5. Skateing_ISO10000_90th_F15 Same NR used as the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lss- Posted February 22, 2015 Share #35 Posted February 22, 2015 Stuart- I wish there were a way to do this, but it would require changing the firmware in the camera. Basically the "button Dance" puts the camera into a diagnostic mode where the extra mode is available. Leica would have to make this change, or the firmware would have to be "hacked". Perhaps Leica could be convinced to provide such a firmware fork for advanced users, while keeping the official version on the front page. The goodwill effect, of course, would be very limited. It is mostly people who already use the M8 that would be interested in this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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