StS Posted May 13, 2007 Share #1 Posted May 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dear all, there are some exposure meters on the market which fit in the flash shoe (as far I know Gossen Digisix, Sekonic Twinmate L-208, Voigtländer VC-Meter II) – does anyone have experience using them on a M? Do they block operation in any way? Do you sometimes use unorthodox light measuring methods? Just a collection - Leicameter – rather convenient but a guessing tool rather, especially when old (and there are no new ones around). Looks like an afterthought on the M (which might be due to the fact it was one – people actually want to measure the light when taking photos?). I should leave it in the glass cabinet now. Lunasix F – good tool but rather bulky (takes almost 80% of the volume of a M body) Point-and-shoot – smaller than the Lunasix but will guarantee strange looks when using it for measuring the light. I use the SLR when I have it at hand (actually a very good spot meter). Cheers Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest stnami Posted May 13, 2007 Share #2 Posted May 13, 2007 read my feet and chuck a couple of stops + or - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Knightworth Posted May 13, 2007 Share #3 Posted May 13, 2007 90% I don't measure anything, just guess .... but I do this with B&W only, Tri-x and APX 100 are quite forgiving. I have no idea how forgiving Colour is since i never use it. With slides however I use a spotmeter. Like our unorthodox friend from ward 13 down under says .... read your feet and under-, or over expose a bit. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 13, 2007 Share #4 Posted May 13, 2007 I use my FX-01. It amuses me to have a lightmeter I can also use to take pictures. It works well as a spotmeter when you zoom! Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted May 13, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted May 13, 2007 90% I don't measure anything, just guess .... but I do this with B&W only, Tri-x and APX 100 are quite forgiving. I have no idea how forgiving Colour is since i never use it.With slides however I use a spotmeter. Like our unorthodox friend from ward 13 down under says .... read your feet and under-, or over expose a bit. :-) Admittedly, especially the XP2 (I'm more familiar with Ilford ) will do completely without measuring unless exposed in a not illuminated coal cellar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frc Posted May 13, 2007 Share #6 Posted May 13, 2007 Estimating with chromes in the camera is extremely difficult. With the exception of myself I know no one that can do it. Though, the MP\s on board center wheighted meter comes close. ;-) I suppose you use an M4 or earlier model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvaliquette Posted May 13, 2007 Share #7 Posted May 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I use the Leicameter MR on my M4-2 and like it. Metered area approximately matches the 90mm FOV. Dealing with Px 625 batteries is getting to be a hassle, however. Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted May 14, 2007 52 year old M3. But what can one do, they just don't break down. I'm 40 and have already lost much more hair For everyday stuff I use a D70. It's like a taxi, nothing to show off but it takes you to the airport. Part of me wold like to trade it for a D200, however the D70 is only three years old. A quality camera at this age is just run in and I'm sure there will be a D300 to follow the D200. The Leica to be used as a reminder photography is a craft. 'It has been emotional' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frc Posted May 14, 2007 Share #9 Posted May 14, 2007 I traded my D 70 S for a D 200, the difference isn't in the details. On the other hand if you don't depend on the cam........ We're talking about a lot of cash here, and although I like it, and it doesn't come close to the Leica M. But, money, three rolls a day, a need for quality, four days a week, three months = one new Nikon. The realy important doc. stuff, still the small cam, on film. If you can live with your present Nikon, invest in a meter to go with the M3. Lunasix almost 80% of an M body? D70 close to 150% of the M body! I must admit often using my DSLR as a light meter and preview tool when working mid format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Morrison Posted May 15, 2007 Share #10 Posted May 15, 2007 I also am using an MR meter on my M4-P. It's quite accurate and battery availability does not seem to be a problem in Canada. As for unorthodox methods, for my SLRs I use a styrofoam cup perched over the lens, place the camera on my shoulder and press MEMORY LOCK . This makes for a quick and dirty (especially if there's old coffee in it:D ) incident light meter. Yours, Robert Morrison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 15, 2007 Share #11 Posted May 15, 2007 For my older Leicas I too have given up using my meter (I have a Polaris dual 5 spot and incident meter) and just use the f16 rule (f8 in winter). 0n a bright sunny day at noon at f16, your shutter speed should be the inverse of your film speed. In other words 200 ISO/ASA = shutter speed of 1/200th of a second. If you then practice for a couple of days estimating how many EV you are below a bright sunny day at noon for different lighting situations, then checking yourself with a meter, you will find that you can start to do without a meter. You can then play about changing f number or shutter speed to suit. I too usually use Ilford XP which has an amazing latitude. If you get it a bit wrong all that usually happens is that your grain will increase. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted May 15, 2007 Share #12 Posted May 15, 2007 I have a Gossen LunaPro, a Leica MC and the MR and I also have the Sekonic Twinmate L208. The Sekonic has a shoe mount adapter that can be placed, screwed onto the meter, in several different positions on the bottom of the meter. I have it so it does not interfere at all with getting to the shutter speed dial on the M's (I use a M3 also). It's a good meter from what I can tell. Right on with the Gossen. But I do prefer to use the Leica MR because it is shutter speed dial coupled and the dial on the meter is easier to turn and see, I wear reading glasses but I don't wear them when taking a shot, then the dial on the camera. My MR is pretty close to both the Gossen and the Sekonic especially for B&W. The Sekonic does set pretty high on the camera when mounted in the shoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share #13 Posted May 15, 2007 As for unorthodox methods, for my SLRs I use a styrofoam cup perched over the lens, place the camera on my shoulder and press MEMORY LOCK . This makes for a quick and dirty (especially if there's old coffee in it:D ) incident light meter. Special price for unorthodoxy (if this word exists in English). I like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Posted May 15, 2007 Share #14 Posted May 15, 2007 what light metering? I use M2/M3/M4 so no meter, go with the sunny 16 rule and take it from there. You'll be amazed how quickly you get it right. Or at least good enough. I only shoot B&W film, so that may help me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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