Bjorkman Posted December 17, 2014 Share #1 Posted December 17, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was initially trying this on my m6ttl (another thread) but it didnt work: Too fire a elinchrom studio flash through a pc cord (I know they are bad, and radio trigger is the next move) and my M6 didnt want too, I've tried the setup on another camera and it worked. The I read the m240 manual, tried the M with the setup, but the M didnt show the flash symbol and didnt fire the elinchrom, what am I missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hoppyman Posted December 17, 2014 Share #2 Posted December 17, 2014 Which connection are you using for the PC cord with the M (typ 240)? You either need the multi function grip since there is no PC cord socket on the actual body or some kind of other brand adapter for the hotshoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorkman Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted December 17, 2014 Its a hotshoe adapter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonmember Posted December 17, 2014 Share #4 Posted December 17, 2014 Whats wrong with a pocket wizard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorkman Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted December 18, 2014 I dont own one, but I did own the hotshoe adapter and the cable so I thought I try it before I go in to wireless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontoamateur Posted December 18, 2014 Share #6 Posted December 18, 2014 Go wireless and then there is no chance of the voltage in the elinchrom hitting the m240 electronics. Better to be safe. The m6 is mechanical and can handle high voltage . Not so with the digital cameras I fried a D800 with my 3000 ws pack by Elinchrom. Then I got smart So get a wireless trip or slave to with a weak flash . These is a reason there is no PC jack on the M240 and that is keep the high voltage of the studio flash out of the delicate camera electronics . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted December 18, 2014 Share #7 Posted December 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) It's always been a fault with the M digital cameras...all of them. No separate flash output; only through the hot shoe which you might be using for a viewfinder:/ cheers Dave S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted December 18, 2014 Share #8 Posted December 18, 2014 If the flash firing at any time? Can you test the adapter and cable on another camera? I do realise that you are trying to get what you have working, but I certainly recommend that you look at Elinchrom's wireless system. Depending on which flash unit model you have of course, the receiver is usually built in. This is one of the reasons that I chose to use the Elinchrom range and I have made some thousands of images successfully with this combination. Now I use it on my S2 as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted December 18, 2014 Share #9 Posted December 18, 2014 Hi Geoff Can you use these with an M8, M9 or M240? Or do you need something in the hot shoe? I'm just looking for a body contact, preferable on the side of the camera to take a flash...strobe, bulb or control unit. A simple fitting, straight electricity...faster than wireless. Then frees up the viewfinder for Visoflex. cheers Dave S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted December 19, 2014 Share #10 Posted December 19, 2014 The Elinchrom and Pocket wizard etc and I think all wireless trigger systems are designed to be fitted to the hotshoe. If you really need to not use the hotshoe I think that the only option would be the multifunction grip plus the flash adapter system which is a bar that goes on the bottom. That is quite an expensive way to go about this as far as I can see. I would never use any corded system where the flash triggers are so much more convenient personally. I have about 8000 frames with my S2 and several thousand with my M (typ 240) using the Elinchrom wireless trigger and some with borrowed Pocket Wizards. Cheap, simple and pretty reliable. . I think there are two different things being talked about here, maybe? The original poster wanted to use an adapter that goes in the hotshoe but has a PC cord socket in the side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookeye Posted December 20, 2014 Share #11 Posted December 20, 2014 The original poster wanted to use an adapter that goes in the hotshoe but has a PC cord socket in the side You mean like this? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I use this inexpensive cable with my M240. It fits the hotshoe, is of good quality and works perfectly. I is a Phottix SC-28 cable. Cheers, HP Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I use this inexpensive cable with my M240. It fits the hotshoe, is of good quality and works perfectly. I is a Phottix SC-28 cable. Cheers, HP ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238616-studio-flash-via-pc-cord-m240/?do=findComment&comment=2731765'>More sharing options...
Bjorkman Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted December 20, 2014 If the flash firing at any time?Can you test the adapter and cable on another camera? I do realise that you are trying to get what you have working, but I certainly recommend that you look at Elinchrom's wireless system. Depending on which flash unit model you have of course, the receiver is usually built in. This is one of the reasons that I chose to use the Elinchrom range and I have made some thousands of images successfully with this combination. Now I use it on my S2 as well. I've tested the adapter and cable on a Nikon dslr and that did work. So I don't know what I'm doing wrong... I know wireless is the way to go, but I don't know why the setup I tried didn't work on the M, it should or am I wrong? =S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookeye Posted December 20, 2014 Share #13 Posted December 20, 2014 The Leica M240 hotshoe is similar to, but not precisely like the Nikon. The contacts are not precisely in the same position. Might that be the cause of your troubles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorkman Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted December 20, 2014 The Leica M240 hotshoe is similar to, but not precisely like the Nikon. The contacts are not precisely in the same position. Might that be the cause of your troubles? When you say it, its quiet obvious and might be the problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted December 20, 2014 Share #15 Posted December 20, 2014 This is a possibility: Wein SSHSHS Safe-Sync Hot Shoe to Hot Shoe, PC Socket 990560. It prevents voltage problems and supplies a PC socket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorkman Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted December 20, 2014 If I turn the question around a bit and ask what wireless system should I go with? I have a elinchrom without built-in wireless control and I have the M 240. And I'm planing too buy the SF58 flash and would like to be able to use that off camera either with a cable type like Hookeye displayed or is there a wireless system for that too? If the cable type is the only/best option for the SF58, does it matter which cable type? Nikon, Canon and so on, as there is no dedicated Leica cable for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookeye Posted December 20, 2014 Share #17 Posted December 20, 2014 I use that cable perfectly with the SF-58. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted December 20, 2014 Share #18 Posted December 20, 2014 Wein Safe Sync plugs into hot shoe. Safe Sync has hot shoe on top for Radio or pc plug in front. Cost around $50. It will also protect camera electronics from high trigger voltage flashes. I never use flash without one. Never Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted December 20, 2014 Share #19 Posted December 20, 2014 I do not mess about with cords. I use my M240 with MF grip and SCA adapter to which I use the PWIII. Works without a hitch and you are free to move about as you wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted December 20, 2014 Share #20 Posted December 20, 2014 If you have an Elinchrom studio flash without the built in radio receiver, they do also market a set of transmitter and receiver called Skyport Universal Speed set. It includes the synchro cables for different brands. You might know that Metz who make the SF58 for Leica are now in receivership by the way? I have been looking at getting that one to use off camera as well. I have (two) Nikon SC leads as well as some Contax ones. I have not found the SC28 to be reliable on the M (typ 240) myself though. The SCA adaptor that Algrove is using is the best solution for portable flash units, I think but that is not cheap of course since you need the multifunction grip too. I see that it would work with another wireless system like the Pocket Wizard mentioned too. So this is a two part discussion I guess. Searching previous threads on using the SF58, I believe that the only way to retain all of the SF58 functions is with that multifunction grip and SCA adaptor. For using your studio flash, Elinchrom or other brand you can get that set I mentioned relatively inexpensively. (AUD160 here).Those little Elinchroms are good value , even if not as strongly made as industry standard type units like the Pocket Wizards (which do cost a lot more). The transmitter you get in the current sets is the same as the one in that universal speed set. My first one broke after 10,000 frames. It is the handling, overtightrening and fit/remove that can break anything. For $100 here I am not complaining. If I turn the question around a bit and ask what wireless system should I go with? I have a elinchrom without built-in wireless control and I have the M 240. And I'm planing too buy the SF58 flash and would like to be able to use that off camera either with a cable type like Hookeye displayed or is there a wireless system for that too? If the cable type is the only/best option for the SF58, does it matter which cable type? Nikon, Canon and so on, as there is no dedicated Leica cable for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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