Pointcolville Posted May 11, 2007 Share #1 Posted May 11, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Today I flipped the "on" switch all the way over to self timer, pressed the shutter, realized my error and turned the switch back to "s". Clicked the shutter again - still in self timer mode. Turned the camera off, then on again to "s" - still in self timer mode. Pulled the battery, put it back, and now it works. Logically I would guess that the switch malfunctioned, but why would the problem correct itself with the equivalent of a hard reset (battery out and back in)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 Hi Pointcolville, Take a look here Stuck in self timer mode. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest guy_mancuso Posted May 11, 2007 Share #2 Posted May 11, 2007 It's not just a camera anymore but a computer and sometimes a hard reset is needed like a battery pull. it may have kept the memory from the self -timer. Hard to say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted May 11, 2007 Share #3 Posted May 11, 2007 Did you put the switch back to S before the timer ran down and took a shot? If so that may be the cause. The computer got confused. I've used the timer a few times and never had any problems with it. But I always let the camera take the shot, as planned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted May 12, 2007 Share #4 Posted May 12, 2007 Today I flipped the "on" switch all the way over to self timer, pressed the shutter, realized my error and turned the switch back to "s". Clicked the shutter again - still in self timer mode. Turned the camera off, then on again to "s" - still in self timer mode. Pulled the battery, put it back, and now it works. Logically I would guess that the switch malfunctioned, but why would the problem correct itself with the equivalent of a hard reset (battery out and back in)? Is this reproducible? If it is fixable by battery removal and replacement, and you don't mind checking, you can upgrade this from an anecdote to a bug report by trying to reproduce it one more time. Then maybe we can see it handled in a coming firmware release. thanks for taking the risk. If you reproduce without permanent damage, I'll try it myself. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointcolville Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted May 12, 2007 Thanks, that is good advice. I will see if I can reproduce the problem. It happened again last night but not under laboratory conditions. Just the opposite - at the horse races - unexpected self timer is almost comical in a scenario where one hopes to catch thoroughbreds crossing the finish line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted May 12, 2007 Share #6 Posted May 12, 2007 ... unexpected self timer is almost comical in a scenario where one hopes to catch thoroughbreds crossing the finish line. It's a known feature of the on-single-continuous-nearly_never switch that it is easy to push it too far when you are in a hurry. But the hang-up you describe is not acceptible, I think. You should gracefully recover from it. The other recovery situation is when you press the shutter and then realize the lens cap is on (in A mode, of course). The camera is patiently working on its 30 sec exposure, to be followed by 30 sec of noise cancellation, but you have other things in mind, so you switch off then on again. This works for me without problems so far, but it's an invitation to disaster to do that to a computer... scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted May 12, 2007 Share #7 Posted May 12, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Switching to "Off" in the middle of an exposure will not actually interrupt power to the camera of course and the camera will be specifically programmed to check continuously (or react to being told by interrupt) for the swtich being set to "Off" during an exposure which will then cause it to abort the exposure. As to why it is not responding to the power switch, it could be anything in the electronics in the top cover or an intermittent flex print connection to the MC16 board. What I can say though is the build in there is top commercial quality, so perhaps try to reproduce the problem as Scott suggests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted May 12, 2007 Share #8 Posted May 12, 2007 Right. I was suggesting two decision steps one -- is it reproducible in one camera two -- is it a bug seen, albeit rarely, in more than one camera. This is a procedure we should follow more generally, rather than leaving weird behavior as anecdotes... scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointcolville Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted May 12, 2007 When I made the transition to DSLRs I found it useful to post anecdotes of strange behavior because sometimes it was not the camera but my own strange behavior that caused the problem. In fact, that was almost always the case - the cameras worked precisely as intended, every time. Using the M8 has been somewhat akin to watching my 3 year old - I love him dearly and I never know exactly what he is going to do next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted May 12, 2007 Share #10 Posted May 12, 2007 I'm sorry but I have never turned the switch to Timer mode by accident when turning the camera on. It's fairly easy to turn the camera on to the S position without going any farther. If you take the time and get use to using the M8 you will see this. In your own haste, and being use to DSLR's, you are in the habit of turning the switch as far as it can go when in a hurry. It's just one simple stop to the S position. When I first got the M8 I myself went by the S stop to the C stop, and or some times inbetween the 2, but that doesn't happen anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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