advice on M9 to m-p upgrade or m240

[XVarior]

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It's amazing how the "M240 vs M9" almost always generates all types of advantages the new M has over the old one except for Image quality. It's so rare to read someone talking about it. The M9 wins there And that's what really made me get one instead of the M240 and now I'm looking for a second backup. Of course, all I'm looking for is that special look that only the M9 "CCD" is capable of. Wish Leica will make a camera with a similar sensor output, without LV, Video... Just a camera like the M9 or MM

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It's amazing how the "M240 vs M9" almost always generates all types of advantages the new M has over the old one except for Image quality. It's so rare to read someone talking about it. ...

 

That might be due to there being no difference worth mentioning. I rather think that you can make images of the same quality, given adequate PP skills (which I lack).

 

I personally find the "other" differences striking enough so that I wanted an M the moment I held one in my hands. Given that the images made by the camera are good enough, I find it most important how the camera assists me in taking the picture. This is where the M excels, I think.

 

It's a bit like discussing knives and handles. The knife with the better handle and balance will be the better knife, given the blades are of the same quality.

[XVarior]

That might be due to there being no difference worth mentioning. I rather think that you can make images of the same quality, given adequate PP skills (which I lack).

 

 

 

I personally find the "other" differences striking enough so that I wanted an M the moment I held one in my hands. Given that the images made by the camera are good enough, I find it most important how the camera assists me in taking the picture. This is where the M excels, I think.

 

 

 

It's a bit like discussing knives and handles. The knife with the better handle and balance will be the better knife, given the blades are of the same quality.

 

 

Yes, with PP you can make any file resembles another, I can surely do that with my eyes closed but it's never the same.

With M240 files I spend time to get there where the M9 starts.

I like your Knife-handle analogy, in my opinion, the new M is a knife with better handle, comfy and easy on hand, the M9 is a knife with certainly a better blade. :-)

No pp here:

M9: 35mm

[AlanJW]

It's amazing how the "M240 vs M9" almost always generates all types of advantages the new M has over the old one except for Image quality. It's so rare to read someone talking about it. The M9 wins there And that's what really made me get one instead of the M240 and now I'm looking for a second backup. Of course, all I'm looking for is that special look that only the M9 "CCD" is capable of. Wish Leica will make a camera with a similar sensor output, without LV, Video... Just a camera like the M9 or MM

 

My image quality with M(240) is better because I have a higher "hit" rate due to the features of the camera that make it easier for me to use, especially working in M mode with the EVF. I just find it very much easier to work with and also better at higher ISOs, which means higher shutter speeds and less camera shake. Of course either one can produce superb images. So can Nikons and Canons. My Nikon D800E has the best sensor I have ever had, but I still prefer to use the M(240). Isn't the user comfort level important given equal ability to capture images?

[mirekti]

Yes, with PP you can make any file resembles another, I can surely do that with my eyes closed but it's never the same.

With M240 files I spend time to get there where the M9 starts.

I like your Knife-handle analogy, in my opinion, the new M is a knife with better handle, comfy and easy on hand, the M9 is a knife with certainly a better blade. :-)

No pp here:

M9: 35mm

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I've never owned M9, but must admit when I look at it's output it's not only different, it makes me feel different

M240 which I own can make me feel this way, but I need to pull the photos through Nik software first. As if there's something missing in the way M240 creates DNGs, and extra tools are needed.

I wouldn't go to M9 though. Too many better things in M240 as already mentioned. On the other hand, the final output is all that counts.

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I've owned the M8, M8.2, M9, M9-P and the M (Typ 240) and would never go back to anything but the M240.

[Jeff S]

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the M9 is a knife with certainly a better blade. :-)

 

A blade that cracks and delaminates?

 

Joking aside, I tried the M9 and find that M240 files are the same or better quality for my print workflow, color and b/w. To each his own; not better or worse as a general statement. Choices are good.

 

Jeff