bocaburger Posted August 29, 2014 Share #301 Posted August 29, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was a little surprised when I checked the US retailers earlier today and saw that the M-P was actually in stock. I placed my order and crafted my ebay listing to sell my M240. My new M-P arrives next Wednesday. I was expecting that the first batch would all be spoken for and I'd have to wait one year to receive the new camera. Leica either delivered an appropriate supply to the authorized resellers this time... OR I was the only one who actually sees value in the M-P. Apparently Leica took a new approach this time by having stock already delivered to dealers concurrent with the product announcement. Kinda makes me wonder why...perhaps announcements at Photokina will explain. I can definitely see the value in the M-P over the M240, in fact had Leica done the opposite...made the M240 with the M-P's features and then offered an "ME"240 with the deletion of the bigger buffer, sapphire screen and preview lever for $1000 less, I think most people would have felt it was not enough of a price differential to entice them. That said, given that one would probably get around $5K for a used M240, then spend $8K on the P, it then becomes a $3000 differential, which some people might have a harder time finding the value in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Hi bocaburger, Take a look here The New LEICA M-P: Discreet, Faster, Harder . I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
CheshireCat Posted August 29, 2014 Share #302 Posted August 29, 2014 they should introduce a standard and '-P' version at the same time to give people the option. This is on purpose. Leica knows that lots of people with deep pockets will buy twice. See also Ken Rockwell's definition of "Leicaman" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 29, 2014 Share #303 Posted August 29, 2014 The M240 is the best Leica product, in fact camera, I have ever used Whether original or P makes little difference. I would still mark my taste as the red dot in a black body, I am not into extreme minimalist, and felt the MM (which I used to have), went a bit far although in a manner synergistic with its colour blindness. I never used the frame lever on the M9 or former Ms and I find the 240 extremely rapid to use. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 29, 2014 Share #304 Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Seems to me that $1000 more for the new features is too much and people are not buying. Therefore, the obsolete M 240 is going up $300 in September. You guys should wait until September before buying an M-P, so you will only pay $700 more instead of $1000. Thanks Leica ! Edited August 29, 2014 by CheshireCat Edited to make clear it is a personal opinion ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 29, 2014 Share #305 Posted August 29, 2014 How can you possibly know whether people are buying or not? Not even Leica can know so shortly after the introduction.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 29, 2014 Share #306 Posted August 29, 2014 How can you possibly know whether people are buying or not? Not even Leica can know so shortly after the introduction.... I guess they had feedbacks from resellers. Fair enough, though. Edited my previous post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 29, 2014 Share #307 Posted August 29, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, I can only speak for myself, and I passed on the M8.2, M9P as well, but if I were looking for a new camera I would go for the M-P. The price difference is reasonable in my eyes. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 30, 2014 Share #308 Posted August 30, 2014 This is on purpose.Leica knows that lots of people with deep pockets will buy twice. See also Ken Rockwell's definition of "Leicaman" What we don't know is whether more money will come in as a result of some M users buying the P now, than would come in if, from the very outset a couple of years ago, a P version had been available at, say, a 10% higher price than the "standard" M. My guess is on the latter possibility, but is is a guess, obviously. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 30, 2014 Share #309 Posted August 30, 2014 What we don't know is whether more money will come in as a result of some M users buying the P now, than would come in if, from the very outset a couple of years ago, a P version had been available at, say, a 10% higher price than the "standard" M. My guess is on the latter possibility, but is is a guess, obviously. Leica could have done that, as all "new" features are not actually new at all. Sapphire screen ? Seen that. Frame lever ? Seen that. 2 GB mem ? Chips have been available for years. But they didn't do that. Leica is following a proven marketing strategy that has worked in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woopie Posted August 30, 2014 Share #310 Posted August 30, 2014 Quousque tandem Catilina abutere patientia nostra? Leica is joking with us... Leica Marketing policy : Leica Mark1 - forget something you know that Leicists love or put something they hate Leica Mark2 - put again what Leicists like and remove what they hate while upgrading from 1 to 2 please add 1.000 $ .... and if you're realizing that M were decreasing in price ( new or used) if you want sell your old car you have at least to wash it and put or remove one sticker... I'm still waiting for the real and deserving successors of my M9-p and MM... For other kind of pictures I use Nikon D810... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted August 31, 2014 Share #311 Posted August 31, 2014 Leica could have done that, as all "new" features are not actually new at all. Sapphire screen ? Seen that. Frame lever ? Seen that. 2 GB mem ? Chips have been available for years. But they didn't do that. Leica is following a proven marketing strategy that has worked in the past. Screw ? Y'ain't seen that! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffry Abt Posted August 31, 2014 Share #312 Posted August 31, 2014 My M-P is elegant ...screw and all. It came just yesterday. "I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship." 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted August 31, 2014 Share #313 Posted August 31, 2014 Leica were planning the M9-P in 2010 but owing to the success of the M9 it was postponed until 2012 (originally planned to be in May in Mayfair but switched to Berlin) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woopie Posted August 31, 2014 Share #314 Posted August 31, 2014 I'm waiting for M-P+S, probably the screw will be moved 2,8 mm to the left, and it will cost only 1500$ more.--- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 31, 2014 Share #315 Posted August 31, 2014 [...] But probably my main reason for finding long lens sports photography a bit artless [...] It's like a cardboard cut-out. [...] Some editors agree with you. Below is a Pulitzer winning sports photo by newspaper photographer Hal Stoelzle. The reproduction is poor, but the original photo is fine. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted August 31, 2014 Share #316 Posted August 31, 2014 Some editors agree with you. Below is a Pulitzer winning sports photo by newspaper photographer Hal Stoelzle. Pulitzer Prize for Breaking News Photography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Art - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Not exactly the same thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 31, 2014 Share #317 Posted August 31, 2014 Pulitzer Prize for Breaking News Photography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Art - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Not exactly the same thing The subject was sports photography. The photographer referred to was a news and sports photographer for fifty years. Three Pulitzers. Very much of his work was 'art'. I wish I had permission to post some his remarkable behind-the-game and off-job work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALD Posted August 31, 2014 Share #318 Posted August 31, 2014 Considering how half the forum went crazy about the naming of the M10 as the M and then it became known as the grossly inelegant part no. M-(240) to be commonly known as the M240 can somebody please finally answer my question, what is the official name of this new camera but old camera? It's like the iphone 6 coming out with a new name, the iPhone I-(240)-S A bit nonsensical actually? So please pray tell what is the new name? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted August 31, 2014 Share #319 Posted August 31, 2014 Considering how half the forum went crazy about the naming of the M10 as the M and then it became known as the grossly inelegant part no. M-(240) to be commonly known as the M240 can somebody please finally answer my question, what is the official name of this new camera but old camera? It's like the iphone 6 coming out with a new name, the iPhone I-(240)-S A bit nonsensical actually? So please pray tell what is the new name? Err.... The M-P? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted August 31, 2014 Share #320 Posted August 31, 2014 So please pray tell what is the new name? M-P (Typ 240). The younger sister of the M (Typ 240). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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