algrove Posted July 28, 2014 Share #21 Posted July 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Martin I am older than you and have just completed 3 years with digital M's. I did not jump into all the lenses as fast as you did, but have now caught up with you lately once I became committed. When I see and hear people that use their M on "A", I cringe since the whole Leica experience to me is using my M's manually. Sure I still make mistakes and it happens to most of us, but the joy Leica use has given me is difficult to put into words. For me the biggest leap has been LR and PS since until 3 years ago I never knew how demanding digital photography can be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bocaburger Posted July 28, 2014 Share #22 Posted July 28, 2014 When I see and hear people that use their M on "A", I cringe since the whole Leica experience to me is using my M's manually. Cameras have had the M's version of "A" since the 60s. I find it convenient to put it in A and then lock exposure on a mid-tone filling the metering area. It's still basically manual to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efreed2754 Posted July 28, 2014 Share #23 Posted July 28, 2014 Hi Martin and welcome. Just returned from Alaska and used M with my old 180 4.0 and M-R adapter. Briefly, failed to nail focus too often. Didn't realize can use 5 and 10x with R glass, but some have also encountered shutter shake. You should read the thread on 80-200 for more details. Also finder and R solution not that rapid as never know when a whale will appear or where. In retrospect think I would have been better off using my M 135 4.0 and cropped for whales. Difference of 135 and 180 not that great. Yes brought an APO double extender but never used it from moving boat. Leica MATE (28-35-50) most frequently used and wonderful travel lens. Used 90 also with 18 much less than usual. Realize everyone's land tours vary but somehow expected need for longer lenses which didn't materialize. Wishing you the best Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted July 28, 2014 Share #24 Posted July 28, 2014 Over the years I've read a fair bit from a few folks on Leica forums dismissive of image stabilization, but from my own experience, tripods, shoulder stocks, and hand-holding technique doesn't cut it shooting from a boat on the open seas. When I was whale-watching in Alaska I was shooting Nikon before they came up with an IS system. At the time with slide film, 400 was about the practical upper limit, and on a cloudy day I was at 1/1600 or thereabouts with a 300/2.8 wide open, which was not enough when the boat started rockin' n' rollin'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted July 28, 2014 Share #25 Posted July 28, 2014 Cameras have had the M's version of "A" since the 60s. I find it convenient to put it in A and then lock exposure on a mid-tone filling the metering area. It's still basically manual to me. Does not work for me as I tend to prefer speed priority more than Aperture priority. Maybe the new M240 FW helps in using A, but I am so used to not using it now I continue to bypass it. When the camera is to my eye and I must adjust exposure, turning the aperture ring is much easier/faster to me than turning the speed dial up top. But then again when not using tripod I shoot at fast shutter speeds in the 1/1000 range whenever possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted July 28, 2014 Share #26 Posted July 28, 2014 Over the years I've read a fair bit from a few folks on Leica forums dismissive of image stabilization, but from my own experience, tripods, shoulder stocks, and hand-holding technique doesn't cut it shooting from a boat on the open seas. When I was whale-watching in Alaska I was shooting Nikon before they came up with an IS system. At the time with slide film, 400 was about the practical upper limit, and on a cloudy day I was at 1/1600 or thereabouts with a 300/2.8 wide open, which was not enough when the boat started rockin' n' rollin'. In Zodiacs in the Galapagos, about 1 1/2 years ago, I was able to capture good images with a Nikon D800e and 28-300mm Nikon lens, which is not one of their best. I cranked up ISO and shot at high shutter speeds with IS on. Apart from the longer reach of 300mm and apart from weather sealing (the M9 I had at the time was not weather-sealed) my Leica could not have captured those images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efreed2754 Posted July 28, 2014 Share #27 Posted July 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Over the years I've read a fair bit from a few folks on Leica forums dismissive of image stabilization, but from my own experience, tripods, shoulder stocks, and hand-holding technique doesn't cut it shooting from a boat on the open seas. When I was whale-watching in Alaska I was shooting Nikon before they came up with an IS system. At the time with slide film, 400 was about the practical upper limit, and on a cloudy day I was at 1/1600 or thereabouts with a 300/2.8 wide open, which was not enough when the boat started rockin' n' rollin'. Thanks. Did set exposure in advance, raised ISO, shot at 1/1000 and closed down two stops, so took what I thought were good precautions. Probably more focus issue than movement as boat going slow waiting for whale to reappear. Believe limits of R lens on M with EV2 and my abilities. Just looked at shots today and while somewhat acceptable, not as crisp as would have liked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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