colonel Posted July 22, 2014 Share #21  Posted July 22, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration)  Harold, as nice as your shot with the Summilux-M 50 Asph is, in my view that is not a lens which is priced on the lower end of the scale. Btw, does the Canon 50/1.2 you shot with fit on an M?  rgds Philip  everything you say is true. I was just showing some different lenses wide open  Its difficult to recommend a cheap lens if you value sharpness. I have been caught a few times by not obeying the maxim "buy cheap, buy twice".  also lastly, although f2 lenses are generally dismissed for bokeh I think this is a mistake. Anything from 50mm, and as mentioned above 75mm or 90mm, can produce decent out of focus areas  just my 2 cents  rgds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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louispreynolds Posted July 22, 2014 Share #22  Posted July 22, 2014 I mean I know it isn't leica but you can get a lot of pleasure from shooting the very affordable Jupiter-3 (50mm f/1.5)  They can be seen for £100-200  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhrads Posted July 22, 2014 Share #23  Posted July 22, 2014 I've been very pleased with the Bokeh produced with a vintage 1954 Summarit 50/1,5. They can even be had in native M mount, but are easier found in LTM and used with an inexpensive adapter. See below examples.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/230790-bargain-m-bokeh-lens/?do=findComment&comment=2635482'>More sharing options...
helged Posted July 22, 2014 Share #24 Â Posted July 22, 2014 Not a Leica M lens, but a cheap one with quite nice bokeh: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-lenses/334731-opinions-super-takumar-lens.html#post2712161. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted July 22, 2014 Share #25 Â Posted July 22, 2014 The Jupiter 3 is a good option (as many has discovered). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drk_1981 Posted July 22, 2014 Share #26 Â Posted July 22, 2014 A few weeks ago I was buying myself a 50mm to complete my lens setup (100+mm missing but thats okey for now) the dealer had a new voigtlander 50mm 1.5, the Konica Hexanon 50mm 2.0 and some old Elmars. He discouraged me to buy the voigtlaender even though it was round 50 bucks more expensive than the Konica Hexanon. Said the Voigtlander bokeh is one of the worsts...I was disappointed as I was really looking forward to get that lens. In the end I went with the Konica, might be not the strongest bokeh monster around but overall i love it and did not regret to follow his advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted July 23, 2014 Share #27 Â Posted July 23, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) A few weeks ago I was buying myself a 50mm to complete my lens setup (100+mm missing but thats okey for now) the dealer had a new voigtlander 50mm 1.5, the Konica Hexanon 50mm 2.0 and some old Elmars. He discouraged me to buy the voigtlaender even though it was round 50 bucks more expensive than the Konica Hexanon. Said the Voigtlander bokeh is one of the worsts...I was disappointed as I was really looking forward to get that lens. In the end I went with the Konica, might be not the strongest bokeh monster around but overall i love it and did not regret to follow his advice. Â Good choice with the Konica 50/2. You should stick with this dealer - he isn't afraid of giving you good advice. Â Re. vintage Summarit 50/1.5 - I would advice against this lens when budget and nice bokeh is a concern. The slower contemporary 50/2 Summitar offers a much more affordable price, many similarities in imaging + lighter weight and bulk (the Summarit is a brick, as it has a heavily built focus mount). Â Not a 50m per se but in my opinion one of the secret tip lenses in the "normal lens" range: Â Pentax 43/1.9 LTM - this is a special edition lens, manufactured in limited edition and basically is the legendary Pentax SLR lens translated into a Leica mount with rangefinder coupling. This lens is EXTREMELY sharp, has modern contrast and a very pleasing, smooth background rendering (unlike such crazies as the Canon f1.2 and .95 or the vintage fast Leitz LTM lenses). Â A lens often not mentioned when people get distracted in "bokeh" is that the lens, that made Leitz big, the Leitz 5cm f3.5 Elmar LTM collapsible lens, is in fact providing a really beautiful out of focus rendering, while being a really sharp lens in center and over the frame when stopped down. Â The best about the Elmar is they were manufactured in large numbers up into the 1950s (before the newer 50/2.8 Elmar was introduced) and are generally very affordable (watch out for hazy optics and scratches, as they have soft glass, as most vintage Leitz lenses up to the 60/70's). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 23, 2014 Share #28  Posted July 23, 2014 ...A lens often not mentioned when people get distracted in "bokeh" is that the lens, that made Leitz big, the Leitz 5cm f3.5 Elmar LTM collapsible lens, is in fact providing a really beautiful out of focus rendering, while being a really sharp lens in center and over the frame when stopped down.  The best about the Elmar is they were manufactured in large numbers up into the 1950s (before the newer 50/2.8 Elmar was introduced) and are generally very affordable (watch out for hazy optics and scratches, as they have soft glass, as most vintage Leitz lenses up to the 60/70's). Dirk,  I totally agree. Here's an example from the humble and often undervalued 50/3.5 Elmar (shot with my IIIf and Neopan Acros 100).  Pete.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/230790-bargain-m-bokeh-lens/?do=findComment&comment=2635786'>More sharing options...
Exodies Posted July 23, 2014 Share #29 Â Posted July 23, 2014 A suitable lens and camera with which to shoot this event. Pray tell, what was this "happening"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 23, 2014 Share #30 Â Posted July 23, 2014 It was the annual tongue-in-cheek 'Chap Olympiad' where people dress as you see and enter events such as Brolly Jousting, Butler Surfing, Not Playing Tennis, and Moustache Tug-of-War. Any sign of a competitor attempting to win ("just not the done thing, Old Chap") will have him immediately disqualified. Many go to a great deal of trouble and expense in acquiring their clothes and accoutrements and its normally a very pleasant day. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted July 23, 2014 Share #31 Â Posted July 23, 2014 This is great Pete! Too bad the Tetrapak gives the time away. It might have been even more fantastic with a hazy Summar ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 23, 2014 Share #32 Â Posted July 23, 2014 Thanks, Dirk, Â I actually don't mind the Tetrapack and tupperware because they prove that it's not an ancient photo. But I know what you mean. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted July 23, 2014 Share #33  Posted July 23, 2014 Dirk, I totally agree. Here's an example from the humble and often undervalued 50/3.5 Elmar (shot with my IIIf and Neopan Acros 100).  Pete.  "Legs" bottom left corner seems to be having a difficult time, notwithstanding the help from the head gardener. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted July 23, 2014 Share #34 Â Posted July 23, 2014 Pete, I forgot to say how much I enjoyed your period picture. An older lens is in its element capturing such fun moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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