Guest Jeffryabt Posted May 2, 2007 Share #1 Posted May 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) On a recent news assignment M8 image (with 28m.Cron) wins out over Nikon D2Hs (with 200 m f/2.0) . The M8 photo goes AI. Nikon image is relegated to Web site. I don't know why I care, but I seem to emotionally prefer the Leica. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/23071-m8-vs-nikon-d2x-m8-wins/?do=findComment&comment=243969'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 2, 2007 Posted May 2, 2007 Hi Guest Jeffryabt, Take a look here M8 vs Nikon D2x ...M8 wins!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted May 2, 2007 Share #2 Posted May 2, 2007 Looking at that D2X shot, who said the M8 was noisy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffryabt Posted May 2, 2007 Share #3 Posted May 2, 2007 Sorry, everyone it was a Nikon D2Hs.I keep both in my bag and get them mixed up. I tried to change title but didn't know how. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted May 2, 2007 Share #4 Posted May 2, 2007 Sorry, everyone it was a Nikon D2Hs.I keep both in my bag and get them mixed up. I tried to change title but didn't know how. You can keep it like that, Jeffry ... otherwise it wouldn't catch as many eyeballs because almost anything in the market right now could blow the D2Hs out of the water easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffryabt Posted May 2, 2007 Share #5 Posted May 2, 2007 Simon, As a sports and journalism camera the D2Hs is still very useful...remember the old saying "newspapers are printed on paper towels". I use the D2Hs all the time, just starting out with the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted May 2, 2007 Share #6 Posted May 2, 2007 Just kidding, Jeffry ... I had the D2H at one time as well. The two that you're having now should complement each other very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffryabt Posted May 2, 2007 Share #7 Posted May 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Simon, Journalist will soon be carrying only video cameras. http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0704/the-coming-earthquake-in-photography.html "Times are a changing!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted May 2, 2007 Share #8 Posted May 2, 2007 I'm as much commited to the Nikon D2x as I am to the M8 and there are some situations where the M8 will Just Not Hack It. Ditto with the D2x. They are both very fine cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted May 2, 2007 Share #9 Posted May 2, 2007 Journalist will soon be carrying only video cameras. That's exactly what I've posted here several days ago ... all the photo editors will have to do is getting a screen capture from the video footage. This is gonna affect the average point and shooters in the long run as well, when home camcorders will have enough still resolution, not many folks will bother with "cameras". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted May 2, 2007 Share #10 Posted May 2, 2007 Goodbye Nikon? http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/free/GoodbyeNikon/index.html R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffryabt Posted May 2, 2007 Share #11 Posted May 2, 2007 Who knows... I'm sure Nikon is well on the way in producing a D3H or D3X. Leica, I'm sure is thinking about the next digital M already! Things are moving fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scjohn Posted May 3, 2007 Share #12 Posted May 3, 2007 I am sorry but this thread takes the cake for being silly. First, although the reference to the Nikon D2X was only a mistake because the photos were actually with the D2H (a camera that trades quality for speed) people seem eager to compare the M8 to the D2X anyway. Second, someone "piles on" with an article comparing the Nikon to D2X to a new Canon. (The real funny thing is that the article's primary complaint (other than bashing Nikon for not introducing any new fixed lenses in complete disregard to Nikon's GREAT 105 macro) is that Nikon is not a "full sensor" camera... oops. Hardly a helpful point when comparing the Nikon to the M8. Third, comparing the D2X to the M8 is an apples and oranges proposition. I love my M8. I also used it by sheer force of desire for some scenics in the Northwest. I know, I know. We have all been warned about the need for the filters but heck, I wanted to use it. A disaster! Moss, wet rocks, furns, deep shadows... Not without filters if you want to use the M8. I can honestly say that although I like the M8, there are situations where I dare not use it yet over my D2X. Conversly, although the M8 is more fun to use, there are no situations I have found in which the D2X is utterly out of its element. I wish we could talk about our M8s without trying to "compare it" to other cameras. It is "incomparable" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted May 3, 2007 Share #13 Posted May 3, 2007 The most widely published photo that I ever shot in 30+ years as a pro was made with a Konica Minolta A2. Does that mean that the A2 WINS over my Linhof, Rollei 6006 and every other camera I ever used? And the A2 would have worked just as well or better for the posted pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffryabt Posted May 3, 2007 Share #14 Posted May 3, 2007 Stephen, Allan Sorry for the silly thread and again sorry for the wrong title for the thread. I posted only because I was delighted the M8 image was used over the Nikon image. In some ways it is impossible not to compare the cameras when you have three cameras in your bag. I'll be more careful about posting on the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scjohn Posted May 3, 2007 Share #15 Posted May 3, 2007 Jeff, I didn't think your original post was silly. The THREAD became silly but only after you explained the shots were taken with the D2H and posters kept banging away on the poor D2X anyway. I agree its impossible NOT to compare the cameras we own. The sad fact is that I seldom have room in MY bag for two systems so I can't swap back and forth like I would like and after my "Great Northwest" problem I'm afraid I will need to lug the D2X as my primary tool at least until my filters arrive. As for comparisons, I NEVER saw a situation in which my F5 or other Nikon film cameras could match my M7 but Leica is in the digital catchup game and it will take time. I liked the reds in your firetrucks by the way... almost kodochrome red! I think the M8 has REALLY nice reds (a nikon weakness in my humble opinion). Its all the IR stuff that is killing me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted May 3, 2007 Share #16 Posted May 3, 2007 Stephen, Allan...I was delighted the M8 image was used over the Nikon image. In some ways it is impossible not to compare the cameras when you have three cameras in your bag. I'll be more careful about posting on the forum. Surely you must realize that the reason one photo was chosen over the other probably had nothing to do with the camera that took it. One is a vertical, the other is horizontal for instance. Maybe it just fit the layout better. Maybe the vertical shot wasn't graphic enough although I feel it is a more interesting image. The horizontal image tells the story more clearly whereas a quick glance at the vertical image could be interpreted as just a bunch of traffic - not so great for a news story. It isn't as if you shot the "exact" same image with each camera and then the photo editor told you why he/she prefered the M8 one. As for image quality, I'm sure that the M8 produces fine quality images but newspaper reproduction isn't very demanding. When printing on newsprint, a lot of the color saturation and dynamic range is lost. And sharpness is diminished by ink spreading on the newsprint. As for comparing the three cameras in your bag,.. knowing the strengths and weakness of your gear is one of your basic requirements. Isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted May 3, 2007 Share #17 Posted May 3, 2007 a... hum! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 3, 2007 Share #18 Posted May 3, 2007 Come on, guys lighten up! OF COURSE the OP knows the difference between content and equipment. He can take his tongue out of his cheek now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirvine Posted May 3, 2007 Share #19 Posted May 3, 2007 Regarding journalists using video cameras, what's interesting is the HD video cams that are always caching so that the operator can rewind and record a moment that just passed. I imagine this will find its way into still cameras soon as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted May 3, 2007 Share #20 Posted May 3, 2007 Simon, Journalist will soon be carrying only video cameras. The Coming Earthquake in Photography by Dirck Halstead - The Digital Journalist (April 2007) "Times are a changing!" We should probably expect they will carry cellphone cameras. A little more memory in them and the video will be as good as a small videocam. Maybe only a few years from now, most people will likely be using cellphone image capture. It's ok. All our consumers are listening to mpegs thru mediocre amps and headphones and viewing jpegs from mediocre capture devices. With all the R&D that's going into HD television and disks, it makes you wonder who will care. Actually, there won't be any news media (serves 'em right for not doing their job), no visual or auditory software of any decent resolution, and nothing to read because the market will have dried up. But, you'll be able to download some 30-year-old tv show of questionable value to your pocket viewing device, all for no more than a monthly subscription that will be bigger than your phone bill used to be. This is good: if you watch old tv shows, you'll be exposing yourself in culture all the time. Gonna stop now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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