Jennifer Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share #61 Posted July 28, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Please stop these threads! You guys are making me poor. 75Lux on the way. Mint in box, 6 bit. 50MM APO on the way too. I'm broke. Lucky you. I'd have to say that I lust after a 50mm APO. However, according to someone I spoke to at Leica today, it really only enters into a league of its own when teamed with the MM. Fortunately for my finances, I only have the M so the immediate desire to have one is reduced somewhat ....... at least, for the time being. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Hi Jennifer, Take a look here A 75 APO-Summicron or a 75 Summilux. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted July 28, 2014 Share #62 Posted July 28, 2014 Lucky you. I'd have to say that I lust after a 50mm APO. However, according to someone I spoke to at Leica today, it really only enters into a league of its own when teamed with the MM. Fortunately for my finances, I only have the M so the immediate desire to have one is reduced somewhat ....... at least, for the time being. Jennifer, in my view these are two hobbies: 1. Photography 2. Gear acquisition The line between is so thin, we seldom realize when we step over Each piece of equipment has it's purpose as deemed by the manufacturer, how it fits our need and what we realize with it is our skill Though there seems to be mass consensus that the APO50 is best teamed with the MM, I find it a pity to not fully leverage the "APO"ness of the lens in color photography My APO50 has made it's home on the M9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted July 28, 2014 Share #63 Posted July 28, 2014 Lucky you. I'd have to say that I lust after a 50mm APO. However, according to someone I spoke to at Leica today, it really only enters into a league of its own when teamed with the MM. Fortunately for my finances, I only have the M so the immediate desire to have one is reduced somewhat ....... at least, for the time being. That is one person's opinion as I find it works very nicely on the M240 in addition to the MM. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 28, 2014 Share #64 Posted July 28, 2014 Hi Jennifer, don't be despondent over your focusing hit rate with the 75 Summilux. Once it has had a CLA, get yourself a 1.4x magnifier, and use the rangefinder to focus, and take your time. With the long focus throw, and care, you will nail it. I would also start with smaller apertures and more static objects, then progress to trickier images. If you look at the depth of field measures I quoted somewhere above, you will very rarely need 1 mm dof at 1 metre. Outside that challenge, the lens so actually very reliable to focus, in my experience. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted July 28, 2014 Share #65 Posted July 28, 2014 Congratulations Jennifer. I would like to remark on a couple of points that you mentioned. Where there is any detectable play at all in the focus movement repeatable precision in focusing would be more than a challenge. I think that you will be thrilled with what you can do with your lens after the Wetzlar folks service it for you. Now I'll maybe challenge the orthodoxy here a little. I seldom use my lenses wide open although they do work fine there whenever I choose to do that. Thoughtful in BW photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com I have the APO Summicron ASPH, not the Summilux but for whatever its worth , in available light I very largely work at f/4 with it for head and shoulders type framing or anything looser. For me that gives exactly the amount of depth of field I prefer there, with near eye sharpest and slight fall off back from there. If you frame really tightly for dramatic effect there is little DoF to use even at f/4-ish. Bec's close up photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com In studio pretty much f/8-f/9.5 which will give very near front to back sharpness on your subject's head while still popping them from the surrounds with that kind of tight framing. L10613 photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com Enjoy your lens when you get it back, shoot it a LOT and of course share your photos and your experience with it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfhrased Posted July 29, 2014 Share #66 Posted July 29, 2014 It was probably calibrated for film - you may find that it's a heck of a lot easier to focus after it comes back from CLA. My 75 Lux went from impossible to focus accurately below 5.6 to focusing spot-on every time at 1.4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted July 29, 2014 Share #67 Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I have to agree with Geoff ........ for portraits I am now reluctant to use wider than f4 unless circumstances force it ...... people have a habit of moving and having a whole heap of just out of focus images is a real bummer. Wide open is fine ....... but using a 90 or 75 at 2/1.4 is getting into Noctilux territory ..... but without the benefit the huge barrel and long focussing throw. Static subjects and with your feet nailed to the floor are ok though...... On my 240 I have a Japan Exposures adjustable 1.35x mag permanently ....... and use the EVF for sub 28mm and 75+ if circumstances make using the RF iffy..... cover all the options and you will minimise the chances of failure ..... ......... Oh .... and after you have used the apo 50 and seen the results you would find yourself leaving all the other heavy bits of glass at home ...... Edited July 29, 2014 by thighslapper 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share #68 Posted July 29, 2014 I have to agree with Geoff ........ for portraits I am now reluctant to use wider than f4 unless circumstances force it ...... people have a habit of moving and having a whole heap of just out of focus images is a real bummer. Wide open is fine ....... but using a 90 or 75 at 2/1.4 is getting into Noctilux territory ..... but without the benefit the huge barrel and long focussing throw. Static subjects and with your feet nailed to the floor are ok though...... On my 240 I have a Japan Exposures adjustable 1.35x mag permanently ....... and use the EVF for sub 28mm and 75+ if circumstances make using the RF iffy..... cover all the options and you will minimise the chances of failure ..... ......... Oh .... and after you have used the apo 50 and seen the results you would find yourself leaving all the other heavy bits of glass at home ...... Do I really need to hear this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted July 29, 2014 Share #69 Posted July 29, 2014 Oh yes ...... you need to have something to dream about at night ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted July 29, 2014 Share #70 Posted July 29, 2014 Do I really need to hear this? YES! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted July 29, 2014 Share #71 Posted July 29, 2014 I suppose that I should have added that my typical use for the 75mm focal length is for half length to head and shoulders people portraits. For subjects further from the camera or different styles I'm sure that the experience is different. For travel or walking around styles, personally I think a 90 is a better choice where you want a bit of magnification. when the light is lower or you are looking to isolate a specific element well then the bigger apertures are invaluable of course. fr8594 photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com Careful pour photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com At the other end, I don't know about the Summilux 75 but the APO Summicron 75 ASPH has a close minimum focus distance and can be useful for close ups too with its small minimum area coverage. Wild Iris photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com Spiral Ginger photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com Can you tell that this is my favourite M lens ever! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted July 31, 2014 Share #72 Posted July 31, 2014 Both 75's have the same minimum focus distance. I have both, I use both, I love both. They are just different, very different. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_OOF Posted July 31, 2014 Share #73 Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I read in this forum almost everything about 75mm lenses because I was very tempted by this focal. I have tried (briefly) Summilux, Summicron and Summarit. With lux I have made about 40% of the shots, wide open, out of focus and the long fucusing and big size didn't make a good feeling. Summarit was damned sharp but I felt it was a little too flat in rendering. My heath was on lux (for its three-dimensionality) but my rational considerations was on cron and so I bought it. I was a littled scared for some comments I read (clinical, too sharp, too contrasty...) but sincerely, and easily we have different opinions on the lens, I have other feelings. It conveys many particulars but this for me this doesn't mean clinical. Possibly at the beginning I thought it was not so sharp as expected but now I think it plays more with microcontrast than with contrast (like the Summarit) and so the sharpness is gentle but all there and besides it retains a high degree of roundness in the photographed objects. I like it very much (not only with my brain ) but maybe in the future my hearth will claim its part... Edited July 31, 2014 by Al_OOF 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted December 27, 2024 Share #74 Posted December 27, 2024 (edited) reposted as reply to my original Edited December 27, 2024 by hoppyman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted December 27, 2024 Share #75 Posted December 27, 2024 On 7/16/2014 at 7:55 AM, hoppyman said: Hi Jennifer. This is one of those questions that, if you ask 20 people you will get 24 opinions Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! All of them will be at least partly right. One person's 'clinical' is another's 'better correction' and vice versa one person's 'glow' is another's under-correction'. I have never owned the Summilux . The APO Summicron ASPH is my favourite lens and I have used it one several film bodies and the M8, M9 and now with my M (Typ 240). The advantages that I prefer are the better correction, smaller size, closer minimum focus distance, lack of focus shift and shorter focus distance. Those are all things others may see as disadvantages! Most often for portraiture, in natural light I use mine at f/4 because that gives me exactly the DoF I want with . I find the accuracy of focus there perfectly fine and have no difficulty. I don't shoot with the lens wide open often personally. In the studio it would nearly always be at around f/8. I use retouching of skin texture selectively (and subtle local sharpening) as a normal part of my developing of portraits. It certainly will record the most fine detail of every pore of skin or eyelash depending on how you light your subject of course. It is up to you how you want to use that and what you do in developing. Here are some photos in a variety of conditions. There are a LOT of portraits with it in my galleries. http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/156344992 http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/156520836 sj9657 photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com skt6365 photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com ar6480 photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com Ba1102BW photo - Geoff Hopkinson photos at pbase.com This is a 10 yr old post. those linked images are no longer there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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