Guest stnami Posted March 9, 2008 Share #81 Posted March 9, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Digilux 4 could be a lot smaller and incorporate new electronics and sensor, a better viewfinder (brigther, bigger), etc. But Leica needs Panasonic for this. sounds like a panaoly:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rosuna Posted March 9, 2008 Share #82 Posted March 9, 2008 Or an Leica-Oly!!! Or Kodak-Leica... Why not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted March 9, 2008 Share #83 Posted March 9, 2008 And new primes for the 4/3 mount! (too many zooms already). . just a curious and tempting aside the new 28/2.8, which i would hope is one of a series of primes to come, are contrast detect AF compatible. Since CDAF is the only way to have AF on a compact camera, these lenses would be perfect for a VF/RF, which in a 4/3rds format would see the DP1 DIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted March 9, 2008 Share #84 Posted March 9, 2008 sounds like a panaoly:D just wonder how right that may be .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdommin Posted March 9, 2008 Share #85 Posted March 9, 2008 (What a nice, old thread this is...) It's been almost a year and a half since ANY new Leica cameras have been announced. What have their engineers and designers been doing in all that time? Or maybe they've all been laid off... I hope not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFashnReloaded Posted March 9, 2008 Share #86 Posted March 9, 2008 I actually think that FT will disappear after some years, same as APS film did. It was just another format, which actually nobody really needed. The arguments for FT are dead already today if you look into what is achievable with normal ASPC size sensors. And these cameras are same size as FT's small cameras - look what Pentax offers. Quality wise the larger APSC sensor size is far superior and if combined with the right lenses this can even achieve better results also in terms of optical IQ. And Leica has never sown any serious interest in FT support so far. The Digilux3 is the best example for this. A rebranded xyz camera is not Leica - sorry. And the lack of support for PanaLeica glass from Leica is another bad example for their dedication to FT. Hi Peter! Many people say you don't need RFs either. By the way, your arguments are full of holes big enough to drive a starship thru. They are simply, to be polite, lies, damn lies, and George W size lies. "A rebranded xyz camera is not Leica" Many of the Leica Rs of yore started off as something else. Look it up. Didn't know that? Awwww... This photographer has just started using Oly equipment. SecondFocus: Real Gainz April Cover... I've read his comments - seems to like the E-3 quite a bit. I'm quite happy with my Four Thirds cameras in every way except for astrophotography at the moment, and that's because I really don't have a decent setup for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFashnReloaded Posted March 9, 2008 Share #87 Posted March 9, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) (What a nice, old thread this is...) It's been almost a year and a half since ANY new Leica cameras have been announced. What have their engineers and designers been doing in all that time? Or maybe they've all been laid off... I hope not. It's a small company which aren't going to be turning out Rs and Ms like popcorn. They AREN'T Canon. That's why you have Panasonic, to handle the rapid turnover end of the business. Do you really want the next camera that comes out to have some sort of problem which people on this forum will tear apart like rabid werewolves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastor_chuck Posted May 23, 2009 Share #88 Posted May 23, 2009 So, it is now the last full week-end in May 2009, lots of time has passed and lots of water has flowed under the bridge (and surely it is time for everyone to quit attacking G.W.B. for doing exactly what he said ). The exam question is: Will there be a digilux 4? 4/3 system? Micro 4/3 system? Is Leica still making the Digilux 3? I see I can still get one from Amazon (or its Panny equivalent). I love Leica glass. I still prefer the handling of my digilux 1 over my Nikon D300 or my LX3/D-lux4 and would carry it exclusively were it not for the noise in low light shots. A digilux 4 with a 10 mp 4/3 sensor and the latest in software features is all I really need. pastor_chuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherub Posted May 25, 2009 Share #89 Posted May 25, 2009 As I am a new Leica (or Pana-Leica should I have to say) owner of a D-LUX 4, and so HAPPY with it, I thought about to buy a Digilux 3 to have a new DSLR camera as well badged Leica (or Pana- L .........). Maybe the R10 will be cool, awesome should I have to say, and you will tell me to buy that one if I want a "real" Leica DSLR; but the price should not be the same as well ... The Digilux 3 is now discontinued, and I try to learn more about its "son" as the DIGILUX 4. Leica in germany replied to my email, without saying nothing except "we will be soon on every level of the market with interesting new cameras". So what to expect ? So here is my dream DIGILUX 4 ... of course will be a Pana-Leica ... a totally re-worked LUMIX G1 by Leica (or a GH1, but without the video stuff, who needs video on a camera ? but the GH1 sensor seems to be better (?) than the G1 ...), with brand new design, including with the camera the M and R adaptors (my dream is to finally buy some M lenses), and with brand new Micro 4/3 autofocus lens by Leica also, not the LUMIX G ones. Reworked as well image processing etc ... by Leica ... Should be cool ... I think we have to wait until september and the forthcoming Photokina ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpes Posted May 25, 2009 Share #90 Posted May 25, 2009 ... ... I think we have to wait until september and the forthcoming Photokina ... Oh well, in my fuzzy crystal ball September is as good as any other month, but waiting for Photokina means 2010 as it comes just on even years. Lots of time to relax and even go wild in our speculations ... we already got the D, the R, the M and now even got an S, so wondering what the E & A will stand for and make fully for our Leica ... DReaMS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherub Posted May 25, 2009 Share #91 Posted May 25, 2009 Oh well, in my fuzzy crystal ball September is as good as any other month, but waiting for Photokina means 2010 as it comes just on even years. Lots of time to relax and even go wild in our speculations ... we already got the D, the R, the M and now even got an S, so wondering what the E & A will stand for and make fully for our Leica ... DReaMS. You're right ! Just speculations ... and dreams ! (It's good to dream !) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted May 26, 2009 Share #92 Posted May 26, 2009 I would love to see a Digilux 4 - but based on what leica says (by saying nothing) tells me not to expect a Digilux 4..... another bad move in my opinion . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted May 26, 2009 Share #93 Posted May 26, 2009 Not saying anything is not necessarily a "no" from Leica, but a new and rather intelligent strategy. Notice how nothing was said about the M8.2 and S2 prior to official release of the news. So in that regard no news on Digilux 4, R10, M9, D-Lux 5 is not a bad sign. I personally dislike half truths mixed with rumors, so I prefer the silence. As for a Digilux 4, and any sensible reason to make one, I think Leica could benefit of rethinking the Digilux 2 and add the obvious faster and more of the buffer, megapixels, quality of EVF, SDHC cards, etc. That's all given. Now, the real engineering challenge will be to leave it fairly untouched. It should be treated with the respect of the M which means don't change size or anything. And the marketing challenge will be how to position it as an intro-level camera leading folks to M and R and S cameras. After all, it has all the qualities Leica (silence, lens, size, image quality, focus on image rather than technology) and in some sense so many of these qualities that one might do with this and not upgrade. I lack the experience that people buying Digilux 2 goes onto M or R, but I experience a lot of relief from dSLR folks that a so no-nonsense camera exist. In any case, a well thought Digilux 4 would do more for Leica than the current D-Lux 4 in terms of making Leica qualities and philosophy known and appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krabat Posted May 26, 2009 Share #94 Posted May 26, 2009 ... Now, the real engineering challenge will be to leave it fairly untouched. It should be treated with the respect of the M which means don't change size or anything. ... I completely agree with everything you say, Thorsten, in particular with the part I have cited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 9, 2009 Share #95 Posted July 9, 2009 Anything new concerning a Digilux 4? I'd also love to see a new Digilux with the specs mentioned by overgaardcom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted July 10, 2009 Share #96 Posted July 10, 2009 here here ! - oh in body stabilzation too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thawley Posted July 11, 2009 Share #97 Posted July 11, 2009 I think Leica could benefit of rethinking the Digilux 2 and add the obvious faster and more of the buffer, megapixels, quality of EVF, SDHC cards, etc. That's all given. Couldn't agree with you more. The real engineering challenge will be to leave it fairly untouched. It should be treated with the respect of the M which means don't change size or anything. Fantastic observation. Get back to what has worked in the past. Position it as an intro-level camera leading folks to M and R and S cameras. After all, it has all the qualities Leica (silence, lens, size, image quality, focus on image rather than technology). Why is this simple logic so hard to grasp? Obviously, making the pundits understand that a GREAT camera (for the ages) does not have to have a kjillioin megapixels, with HD movies, Image stabilization, 10X digital zoom, face recognition, GPS, iPod, and come in fifteen fashionable colors to match your Hello Kitty backpack.... The principle is simple... benefits... NOT FEATURES. Tell your market Leica has put your dollars into Image quality and user experience. Leave the whistles and bells for the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkfosterl Posted July 11, 2009 Share #98 Posted July 11, 2009 Or Kodak-Leica... Why not? That would be fine with me. The first camera I used seriously was a Kodak Retina IIC. I had next to no idea what I was doing with it, but is was a very fine camera. Things have changed just a bit with Kodak since then, mind you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted July 11, 2009 Share #99 Posted July 11, 2009 Couldn't agree with you more. Obviously, making the pundits understand that a GREAT camera (for the ages) does not have to have a kjillioin megapixels, with HD movies, Image stabilization, 10X digital zoom, face recognition, GPS, iPod, and come in fifteen fashionable colors to match your Hello Kitty backpack.... I strongly disagree with leaving out Image stabilzation on a Digilux 4, having it "in camera" opens up many opportunities for users of R lenses. infact if Leica doesn't produce something by the time i buy my next camera i will be going with an Oly 4/3 with in camera stabilzation, cleaner perfomance at higher iso - push to 6400 iso, 5 fps. and i beleive this camera already exisits so in a year or 2 who knows what non leica options will be out in the market. IMO: leica is practically asking, no telling its (refelx camera body) users to look for alternatives - some dont want to hear the message Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thawley Posted July 11, 2009 Share #100 Posted July 11, 2009 I strongly disagree with leaving out Image stabilzation on a Digilux 4, having it "in camera" opens up many opportunities for users of R lenses. infact if Leica doesn't produce something by the time i buy my next camera i will be going with an Oly 4/3 with in camera stabilzation, cleaner perfomance at higher iso - push to 6400 iso, 5 fps. and i beleive this camera already exisits so in a year or 2 who knows what non leica options will be out in the market. IMO: leica is practically asking, no telling its (refelx camera body) users to look for alternatives - some dont want to hear the message I guess you missed the part about the RETAINING the existing lens. Sorry... but you keep wanting to open that door.... I don't want a camera that takes pictures FOR me. I want a camera that simply emulates the process of putting an image on film... onto a sensor. The rest is better suited to mail order and Best Buy. Less is more. Sorry.... but I think all of these "whistles and bells" are the problem... not the solution. JT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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