M digital vs film in iso / shutter speed setting

[leica1215]

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I looked at the M 100 limited edition pictures, and the film camera reminds me of using the iso limit at 800 and highest shutter speed you can get is 1000 at film era. nowadays with our M240 we can raise the iso to 3200 without much of degrading in picture quality, and shutter speed up to 1/4000.

 

how many of you guys still try to use your M or use M in ordinary way, iso not over 800 and shutter speed stays under 1/1000?

[Mike Rawcs]

I use my M240 as I would my film MP i.e I try to keep the ISO low and use shutter and aperture for the desired effect. I've never used the video button. I know that Live View works because I pressed the button accidentally.

 

Mike.

[01af]

I don't.

 

When shooting hand-held with 35-mm film, my most-used shutter speeds used to be 1/30 - 1/250 s. I was using 1/1000 s maybe two or three times a year. With digital these days, it's 1/250 - 1/2000 s all the time; I'm using 1/1000 s (or faster) frequently.

[Herr Barnack]

I use my M240 as I would my film MP i.e I try to keep the ISO low and use shutter and aperture for the desired effect. I've never used the video button. I know that Live View works because I pressed the button accidentally.

 

Mike.

 

Same here.

 

I made a video once - by accident. The M240 needs a menu based video lockout IMHO. I hope the firmware update department in Wetzlar is listening.

 

Live view can be actuated by the frame of your glasses when shooting in vertical (portrait) configuration. I have started shooting verticals with the top plate facing to my right because of this (even though it is a bit awkward to hold the camera this way).

[fotofool]

I don't.

 

When shooting hand-held with 35-mm film, my most-used shutter speeds used to be 1/30 - 1/250 s. I was using 1/1000 s maybe two or three times a year. With digital these days, it's 1/250 - 1/2000 s all the time; I'm using 1/1000 s (or faster) frequently.

 

That's because you find the image quality benefit of short exposure time (reduced motion blur due to camera shake or subject motion) outweighs the image quality cost of higher sensor gain (increased noise and reduced dynamic range)?

 

That's interesting. I hadn't thought about it that way, but maybe this is generally true for many scenes?

[Foxy11]

Surely it's just a tool. Use it as the scene requires. Limiting your ISO/shutter speed is like going back to a moment in time. Go back another 20-30 years and you could limit your ISO to 100 or 200! Why pick just before digital?

 

 

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[01af]

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That's because you find the image quality benefit of short exposure time [...] outweighs the image quality cost of higher sensor gain [...]?

It's because digital sensors are much more sensitive than film ever was. More flexible, too.

[Echo63]

Same here.

 

I made a video once - by accident. The M240 needs a menu based video lockout IMHO. I hope the firmware update department in Wetzlar is listening.

 

Live view can be actuated by the frame of your glasses when shooting in vertical (portrait) configuration. I have started shooting verticals with the top plate facing to my right because of this (even though it is a bit awkward to hold the camera this way).

 

Oh, yes - i have made a video too

Even locking the button out so it only works in Live View would help.

 

 

I never really shot much film, maybe 200 rolls from getting my first camera at 12 till i started with digital when i was 22ish

 

Now i just shoot - i balance shutter, aperture and ISO to get the appropriate effects i need (low SS for panning, wide open aperture for minimal DOF etc)

For example - a concert tonight - wide open, shutter at 1/180, and ISO at 1600 to get a correct exposure.

Pics turned out great, very happy with them (not so happy with the horrible orange cast in my 1DX pics)

[fotofool]

It's because digital sensors are much more sensitive than film ever was. More flexible, too.

 

OK, but your statement seems to imply that, for example, given the choice of taking a shot at ISO 800 and 1/125s you would generally prefer ISO 1600 at 1/250s?

 

I generally follow the rule of keeping the ISO as low as possible and adjust exposure with shutter speed until it drops to around 2/focal length. I think many of us were taught to think this way in the film era. At that point, if I need more exposure, I start cranking up the ISO as needed. -- which in the film era would mean putting in faster film or resorting to a tripod (or just not taking the shot).

 

But maybe I am thinking about it wrong. Maybe I should keep shutter speed above some number (1/250?) and just adjust the ISO until it starts to get really high (>1600?) and only then start to compromise on shutter speed.