Medium Format Vs. 35 MM

[Guest stnami]

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the adds are not a problem ......................keep your fs to yourself for a start:D :D spare us

[Leicamateur]

Dude...

 

Robert wrote himself "look at my photos".

I am not offended if someone ads here (unless its some ad for anything pervert or illegal) and I couldn't care less.

But to me it rather seems like cheap advertising for some books.. as said I couldn't care less and it's the forum admins call to delete it or whatever.

 

I find it just funny that people are still replying to this, especially you trying to explain stuff like dpi, acoustic image etc. Robert, if he can be believed doesn't even know the difference between a SLR and Rangefinder... all that doesn't seem strange to someone who is an editor for photographic books?

 

But as said, I don't care, I'm a peaceful person so I will leave this alone.

 

Cheers.

 

P.S. Robert, buy a consumer digital camera with program modes, set it to P and shoot your pictures

[xray]

You should think about total cost of such a project. Equipment is the least of your expenses. I'm completing a documentary project on appalachia that will become two traveling museum exhibitions and a book of 70 images and text. We're getting grant money for the book and expenses in crating and framing the prints so yesterday I spoke to a publisher friend about other photo books hes's published. The most recent was a book of 150 pages 4 color and coffee table size. The printing was some of the best that I've seen and was printed in China. He stated that the run was 10,000 copies and with the design and copy writing fees the total came to almost $100,000. As mentioned my book will be just under 100 pages with text and and all the writing will be done by the museum writers but we will be printing the all B&W images in quad tome which is 4 color B&W basically. We're also goint to insert a CD of sound clips of moonshiners talking about their occupation, sounds of snake handling religious services, mountain music and stories from appalachian folks. This will bring the cost up some so we've estimated the cost around $60,000-$70,000 for about 10,000 copies.

 

Really there's no best format for something like my project. I don't know about your project but I've shot with 8x10, 5x7, 4x5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x17 and 35mm for my project.

 

Just something to keep in mind if you think equipment is expensive. Also thate's a great deal of competition for the publishing dollars. Your work must be stellar in quality and content plus the publisher must feel they will make money on the book.

[roccoriley]

This guy is putting you on!

[Guest stnami]

............. no way he's one of the good guys!!!!!!!!.......... I wonder if he will come back.... send him an email, better still buy a book..............signed!!!

[rob_x2004]

I thought it was just an electronic spam letter advert with Leica substituted by a program where on the Nikon site it would just have Nik models inserted.

 

Ah well there you go.....even computers have feelings.

[Guest stnami]

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[rob_x2004]

Ohh wow...That is beautiful. "He is able to not only solve his own problems...he can create them too" That caused me introspection and brought a tear to my eye. Hey Im? You know when there was all this Digilux2 LC1 debate going on and I ran out of ginger and laid down apple and lemon hooch? Well I found some of htat stuff. Talk about poison.

 

Jetstars cheep flights to Asia and Vietnam run out tonight too. Melboune is still only sixty bucks.

[rob_x2004]

Dooooh! Youve been watching south park again. The closet episode.

[Guest stnami]

Don't worry Rob John Travolta will be taxiing down the runway soon, he promised me that he will fly you to Cobbity Station for the annual water festival

 

ps Tom said, can bring your talking Billingham Leica bag his m8/ate is a bit off

[stuny]

Robert –

 

Welcome to the Forum. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, and assuming these are legitimate questions, and not an attempt to boost sales of your books, I suspect you can save yourself a bit of cash by shooting slides but not scanning them (therefore, no scanner purchase). Check with your contacts at Fodor’s – I’ll bet they would prefer to work from your slides rather than your scans of slides. They have scanners (or access to scanners) far better and far more expensive than ordinary mortals can afford.

 

Nobody mentioned one other concern, but perhaps this will not be a concern for you. Many years ago, during a job interview, I had to produce a writing sample on the spot. I didn’t get the job but the sample became the 5th chapter of a book I wrote for beginning photographers. Back then, before the invention of the word processor people could send manuscripts directly to publishers rather than going through agents. I went to a bookstore, selected a publisher, and sent them the ms. Six weeks later I had a contract and a list of edits. Since then word processors have swamped publishers and agents, and now one must go through an agent. However, since agents are swamped, too, they generally only respond to bankable names or referrals of bankable names. My experience (a completed, humorous novel, a partially completed biography, and a partially completed travel book with photos), and the experience of a colleague (eight excellent completed children’s books, three completed thrillers, and a satire on the world of finance in the works) are that getting an agent is far more difficult than producing good works. Hopefully, this will not be an issue for you.

 

If you do go the slide route, buy your film from reputable sources in the regions of Italy where you plan to shoot. That way you can completely avoid airport x-ray scanning of your film. For more on that topic have a look at this page on our site: Film XRays and FAA

[R.Morrison]

Thorsten:

I must agree with you. Many of the editors of the magazines and newspapers that have published my work know zip about photography and aren't afraid to admit it. This includes those with the appelation of 'photo editor'. They do know a good picture when they see one.

 

Yours,

Robert Morrison, M4-P, etc.

[simonpg]

Of course like others have said, the size images you are talking about will be quite adequately covered by quality 35mm capture - especially Leica capture!

 

But, if you are serious about having images published and want the peace of mind that you will have the optimal images to publish, then getting into MF is an excellent choice.

 

The issue is all about minimising the degree of magnification of the film frames and MF will certainly achieve that for you - detail rich images. Many pros even go to large format for images that will be published.

 

MF is at an all-time low cost to get into these days on the used market. Personally, I shoot Hasselblad 6x6 with their wonderful Carl Zeiss lenses. These lenses have similar tonality and quality attributes to my Leica M lenses. Whenever I am shooting images that deserve detail rich quality and minimal magnification, I always use my 6x6.

[Leicamateur]

 

ROFL :D

 

sorry I just couldn't hold back

[KevinA]

MF all the way if your subject is suitable for MF. 6 x7 systemts can be accquired seconhand quite cheaply.Yes you can go to this size with 35mm, but you can do it better with a larger format, that's the way it's always been. Bigger has always been better that's why MF and LF exist.

A lot will depend on quality of repro, printer and paper stock etc as to the final outcome, assuming the photography is well executed.

 

Kevin.

[StS]

Cost of ownership does not necessarily scale with image size.

 

Digital images seem to be free, however my expenses on computer equipment would have covered quite some rolls of film.

 

35mm is probably the least expensive way to take images on film. However, a 35mm roll is easily filled, especially if one is spoiled by using a digicam.

 

A 120 or 220 film does cost more per image, however one tends to take less.

 

When it comes to large scale, the single images are rather expensive, however each picture takes long enough you certainly won't miss the winder.

 

The most expensive part in your project is probably the trip to Italy.

[NZDavid]

As an editor and journalist myself, I have been there myself. I have found Leica can rival MF for most intents and purposes, mainly because the lenses are superlative. It is ideal both for travel and landscapes because it is lightweight. Film choice makes a huge difference. I recommend Astia 100F slide film, which has extremely fine grain and scans superbly (important in contrasty light for reproduction). Before buying anything, I'd read some more, for example Perfect Exposure by Roger Schulz and Frances Schulz, which addresses this issue.

 

Good luck!

 

David

 

http://www.davidkillick.co.nz

[NZDavid]

Then again, I am not sure a Leica M would suit you. Perhaps an SLR? Not necessarily a Leica, although Leica makes excellent SLRs which you can also get secondhand. Then again, there are some excellent bargain MF cameras to be had secondhand, including a classic Hasselblad. You would not be able to blame the equipment. Digital could do it, too - my reservations would be about tonal range, but that concern may be out of date now. Some more books on garden photography would help.