Guest Ansel_Adams Posted March 4, 2014 Share #41 Â Posted March 4, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) The only reason people put up with the massive size of the Noctilux is to get its maximum aperture (f1.2, f1 or f0.95), which was handy in the film days for low light, particularly press photography. With digital you can easily increase ISO by one stop and you have the same range. Â Unless that is your main usage then you don't need it. It is not a better lens than a summicorn or summilux at other stops - in fact it is worse. Nobody buys a Noctilux to shoot at f2! Â In my book the Summicron is the best lens out there fore Leica, with the best price/performance/size ratio. You don't even need a Summilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Hi Guest Ansel_Adams, Take a look here Summilux or Noctilux. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Paul J Posted March 4, 2014 Share #42 Â Posted March 4, 2014 It is not a better lens than a summicorn or summilux at other stops - in fact it is worse. Â Which one did you own? It sounds like you had a bad copy. Â Nobody buys a Noctilux to shoot at f2! Â I think you might find that everyone who buys a Noctilux intends to use it at all apertures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted March 4, 2014 Share #43  Posted March 4, 2014 The only reason people put up with the massive size of the Noctilux is to get its maximum aperture (f1.2, f1 or f0.95), which was handy in the film days for low light, particularly press photography. With digital you can easily increase ISO by one stop and you have the same range........... ...............................  I've explained why I didn't keep my Noctilux, it wasn"t right for me, but I get the impression (because people say it explicitly) that it's not just about the light-gathering powers of the f1± lenses but the extremely shallow dof they make possible. No iso settings can replicate this. Again, we don't all want this effect, but many do.  Anyway, some people enjoy the lens enormously, for whatever reasons. What's wrong with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted March 4, 2014 Share #44 Â Posted March 4, 2014 I think you might find that everyone who buys a Noctilux intends to use it at all apertures. Â Maybe, yes. But the Nocti has no ADVANTAGE at other apertures. In fact it can be worse. The only reason you get it over a Summilux is for f1. f0.95, etc.. You do not buy a Noctilux to shoot at f8, when a cheaper and smaller Leica lens can already do that, and probably better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted March 4, 2014 Share #45  Posted March 4, 2014 In fact it can be worse  You didn't answer me and just stated the same nonsense. Which one did you own? The Noctilux 0.95 should be as sharp as the Summilux ASPH. It plays a neck and neck game through out the apertures, sometimes the same, sometimes slightly sharper, sometimes slightly not as sharp, but for all intents and puroses too close to state much of a difference. Like the Summilux, it is sharper than the Summicron at all apertures. Some more-so than others. The summicron, while old is still a very good design but the newer technology, designs and glass gets the edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted March 4, 2014 Share #46 Â Posted March 4, 2014 Calm down Paul J. We are just discussing. No need for the insults. We are all friends here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted March 4, 2014 Share #47 Â Posted March 4, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Which part insulted you? The fact that someone likes something you don't seem to? That someone doesn't agree with your sweeping assumptions and generalisations? Or the part that condenses the many reviews and tests over the net and personal experience? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmldds Posted March 4, 2014 Share #48  Posted March 4, 2014 Summilux asph = practical and almost boring Noctilux = emotional and exciting, especially, the f/1 version  I have both but use the Nocti more often.  I will likely catch some flack for this:)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted March 4, 2014 Share #49 Â Posted March 4, 2014 To the OP. Also see: Â http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/171883-noctilux-f0-95-worth-jump.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted March 4, 2014 Share #50 Â Posted March 4, 2014 I will likely catch some flack for this:)! Â Not at all from me (but I don't find the Summilux boring). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Lord Posted March 5, 2014 Share #51 Â Posted March 5, 2014 Hmmm...No one's gonna buy a noctilux for landscapes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted March 5, 2014 Share #52 Â Posted March 5, 2014 Hmmm...No one's gonna buy a noctilux for landscapes. Â Why not? It gives you more compositional choices than other fifties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted March 5, 2014 Share #53  Posted March 5, 2014 Hmmm...No one's gonna buy a noctilux for landscapes.  Yes Adrian, it's hard to shoot a good landscape with such a crap lens .  M9, 1.0/50 Noctilux E60 v3   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!    It wouldn't be my choice for a landscape over the 1.4/50 Summilux ASPH but sometimes one just has to make do with what one has at hand . Oh, and they look great printed to A2. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!    It wouldn't be my choice for a landscape over the 1.4/50 Summilux ASPH but sometimes one just has to make do with what one has at hand . Oh, and they look great printed to A2. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/222510-summilux-or-noctilux/?do=findComment&comment=2543967'>More sharing options...
Paul J Posted March 5, 2014 Share #54 Â Posted March 5, 2014 If you can get used to the size and weight, personally I don't even notice it, and if you forget about the stupid price and stop worrying about it, and that does happen after a while, then it's a very capable, flexible, every day, all rounder lens. It's my standard lens for work and personal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Lord Posted March 5, 2014 Share #55 Â Posted March 5, 2014 Mark what f stop were those nice landscapes at? I've seen them posted before on here, lovely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted March 5, 2014 Share #56 Â Posted March 5, 2014 Mark what f stop were those nice landscapes at? I've seen them posted before on here, lovely. Â Thanks a lot Adrian. Â The Skillion was shot at about f8.0. The EXIF data of the seascape is f4.8 but that is way off as it was shot at approx. f1.4 with an ND filter - note the shallow DOF about the centre rock platform and the soft vignetted corners. Â Regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted March 5, 2014 Share #57 Â Posted March 5, 2014 Mark, I love that first shot in particular. The geometry in it is wonderful, well seen and done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted March 5, 2014 Share #58 Â Posted March 5, 2014 Yes Adrian, it's hard to shoot a good landscape with such a crap lens . Â M9, 1.0/50 Noctilux E60 v3 Â Â [ATTACH]425550[/ATTACH] Â [ATTACH]425549[/ATTACH] Â Â It wouldn't be my choice for a landscape over the 1.4/50 Summilux ASPH but sometimes one just has to make do with what one has at hand . Oh, and they look great printed to A2. Â Yes I agree, and a summicron would have done just a good a job also, been lighter and cheaper! This just reinforces my argument that the only reason to get a Noctilux is if you need to shoot wide open at f1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAD Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share #59 Â Posted March 6, 2014 Just got a ship note for my Noctlilux today, so I will pick it up after work. Still have not decided 100%, but I guess it will be very dificult to return when I get it inside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookeye Posted March 6, 2014 Share #60 Â Posted March 6, 2014 Congratulations KAD. I am sure you will enjoy it. It will also be interesting to hear how you find the 0.95 compared to the 1.0 version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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