AandW Posted February 15, 2014 Share #1 Posted February 15, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just purchased the multifunction grip for the M and I am unable to access the GPS menu item. It shows lightly greyed out just as with the standard base plate. It does indicate 'on' so I did go for a walk outdoor for a while taking pictures but it did not change. The info screen does not provide any of the GPS indications and no files had GPS info. The grip does allow tethered operation via USB and downloading pictures works fine. There is no apparent damage to the contacts. Latest firmware, Reset via menu, Changed battery Any Ideas would be appreciated, Wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Hi AandW, Take a look here Multifunction Grip - GPS Menu Greyed Out. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
algrove Posted February 16, 2014 Share #2 Posted February 16, 2014 OK, so when I go through the Menu and get to GPS (ht is white) and I can hit set then I can select on and press set and all works. I guess is what you are not getting is the ability to hit set on GPS and then select on since the entire GPS line is grayed out. To me this means the camera does not recognize the MF grip's GPS for some reason. Send it back and get a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandW Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted February 16, 2014 Thanks for the response, I will drop a note to Leica support and most likely have to return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted February 17, 2014 Share #4 Posted February 17, 2014 in some areas or at certain times, gps can be automatically disabled for legal reasons & you can't use it. Also in play mode, check the info button to see whether gps was connected for any particular shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 17, 2014 Share #5 Posted February 17, 2014 in some areas or at certain times, gps can be automatically disabled for legal reasons & you can't use it. Also in play mode, check the info button to see whether gps was connected for any particular shot. Sorry I don't quite understand your post. Are you saying that the Leica GPS receiver in the multifunction grip can be automatically disabled, or are you referring to the GPS signals from either the US or Russian GLONASS satellites? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 17, 2014 Share #6 Posted February 17, 2014 Thanks for the response, I will drop a note to Leica support and most likely have to return. A&W I did not think to ask you where you are located. Some posters have inferred that certain countries do not allow GPS usage for private individuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted February 18, 2014 Share #7 Posted February 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was in northern Japan last week. In some areas, when trying to connect manually after realizing I hadn't locked onto a signal, The camera displayed "GPS is disabled for legal reasons" & gps switched itself off. In other areas it connected by itself normally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 18, 2014 Share #8 Posted February 18, 2014 Maybe it detected radioactivity nearby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 18, 2014 Share #9 Posted February 18, 2014 I was in northern Japan last week. In some areas, when trying to connect manually after realizing I hadn't locked onto a signal, The camera displayed "GPS is disabled for legal reasons" & gps switched itself off. In other areas it connected by itself normally. I don't own this accessory, so I don't know if it uses the US or Russian GPS system, but I think this information from NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) is perhaps relevant: Has the United States ever turned off GPS for military purposes? No. Since it was declared operational in 1995, the Global Positioning System has never been deactivated, despite U.S. involvement in wars, anti-terrorism, and other military activities. Millions of users around the world have been monitoring and recording real-time GPS performance on a continuous basis since its inception. If the civilian GPS service had ever been interrupted by its operators, the evidence would be obvious and widespread. No such evidence exists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandW Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted February 18, 2014 I have written to Leica who based on my email description suggest it is likely a faulty grip. I am in Toronto which is the same time zone as Cuba (one of the countries they list) but clearly not that close. As a long shot I did change my time zone setting to see if it would help but not so. Wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted February 21, 2014 Share #11 Posted February 21, 2014 The Multifunction Grip does not work where I live in china. It did work fine during my last trip to the States. I find the lack of GPS on Leica cameras here amusing, as GPS devices are common. Even foreign made GPS is available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 21, 2014 Share #12 Posted February 21, 2014 The Multifunction Grip does not work where I live in china. It did work fine during my last trip to the States. I find the lack of GPS on Leica cameras here amusing, as GPS devices are common. Even foreign made GPS is available. This makes absolutely no sense. I don't know which GPS receiver module Leica is using, but these are not expensive or complicated devices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted February 21, 2014 Share #13 Posted February 21, 2014 Illegal use of electronic GPS blockers is becoming a problem, often by van drivers who would like to use theit company's van for private use during lunch breaks, according to a recent BBC documentary. This can play havoc for GPS users -- imagine a captain trying to dock a large freight ship or a pilot landing an aircraft. It might be worth checking whether there is a valid GPS signal by activating a handheld or car GPS navigation device near the camera. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted February 22, 2014 Share #14 Posted February 22, 2014 This makes absolutely no sense. I don't know which GPS receiver module Leica is using, but these are not expensive or complicated devices. I agree, but my wife's V-Lux 30 has the same warning (does not work in the PRC). And it doesn't. Works fine everywhere else. But all our friends cars have GPS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 22, 2014 Share #15 Posted February 22, 2014 The US government does place some restrictions on GPS receivers, so that they cannot be used (easily) as weapon systems. I don't remember the ITAR specs, but it was something like no speed above 600kts and no altitude above 15,000 meters (or something similar). However we are talking about a German made product, and as others have pointed out there are a number of GPS products that work just fine in China and other countries. Certainly my US purchased iPad has no problem receiving signals, nor my South Korean Samsung phone. I would be very interested to learn what this is all about... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted February 22, 2014 Share #16 Posted February 22, 2014 Certainly my US purchased iPad has no problem receiving signals, nor my South Korean Samsung phone. Just curious - how does a person know when the iPhone or iPad is using GPS rather than radio tower triangulation or tower locator database? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 22, 2014 Share #17 Posted February 22, 2014 Just curious - how does a person know when the iPhone or iPad is using GPS rather than radio tower triangulation or tower locator database?. I'm not sure there is a way to tell with the iPad. With my Samsung phone there is a setting for GPS, and you can supplement the signal and speed by allowing wireless networks to estimate your position before the GPS locks in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted February 22, 2014 Share #18 Posted February 22, 2014 I'm not sure there is a way to tell with the iPad. With my Samsung phone there is a setting for GPS, and you can supplement the signal and speed by allowing wireless networks to estimate your position before the GPS locks in. I guess I am not the only one who doesn't know. The iPhone uses GPS and also wireless when its results are better, but apparently doesn't tell us. No big deal. It works! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgcm Posted February 22, 2014 Share #19 Posted February 22, 2014 Have a look here. Why do Panasonic, Leica, FujiFilm, Samsung and Nikon censor their GPS cameras? | Ogle Earth Cina is far from being a free country Franco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted February 22, 2014 Share #20 Posted February 22, 2014 Have a look here. Why do Panasonic, Leica, FujiFilm, Samsung and Nikon censor their GPS cameras? | Ogle Earth Cina is far from being a free country Franco Well that's the stupidest thing I have ever read (but I believe it's true). For Panasonic and Leica to run scared is absolutely ridiculous. As for Samsung I have mentioned earlier that their phones equipped with GPS work fine here, as do Garmin units for hiking and automotive. China today is not like it was in the 1970s, and nobody is following foreigners around wondering if we're using GPS (we are!). In fact a simple walk around any large Chinese city will find foreigners navigating with their phones using Google Maps or some equivalent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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