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Hi, last week I went to the International BMW Vintage Vehicle Event at Bad Nauheim.

 

A nice BMW R50 or R 60 I would say. SONY A7, Leica Elmarit 2,8/21 ASPH.

 

The Voigtländer Nokton topic is getting interesting. How can you tell the 2 versions apart?

 

Well, there are engravings on the lens, and a sticker on the box, e.g. for the SC :

 

Voigtlander NOKTON classic 40mm f:1.4 S.C Lens Leica M fit | eBay

 

Very well. But my version has no engravings and no sticker on the box.

 

So is it an SC, an MC, a rare, valuable unmarked specimen, or a cheap copy from China?:D

 

Owners might have an answer ...

 

Have a nice weekend!

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Hi, last week I went to the International BMW Vintage Vehicle Event at Bad Nauheim.

 

A nice BMW R50 or R 60 I would say. SONY A7, Leica Elmarit 2,8/21 ASPH.

 

The Voigtländer Nokton topic is getting interesting. How can you tell the 2 versions apart?

 

Well, there are engravings on the lens, and a sticker on the box, e.g. for the SC :

 

Voigtlander NOKTON classic 40mm f:1.4 S.C Lens Leica M fit | eBay

 

Very well. But my version has no engravings and no sticker on the box.

 

So is it an SC, an MC, a rare, valuable unmarked specimen, or a cheap copy from China?:D

 

Owners might have an answer ...

 

Have a nice weekend!

 

I would love that bike to go with my BMW GS1100 can't wait untill it's a classic because ill never sell it

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Hi, last week I went to the International BMW Vintage Vehicle Event at Bad Nauheim.

 

A nice BMW R50 or R 60 I would say. SONY A7, Leica Elmarit 2,8/21 ASPH.

 

The Voigtländer Nokton topic is getting interesting. How can you tell the 2 versions apart?

 

Well, there are engravings on the lens, and a sticker on the box, e.g. for the SC :

 

Voigtlander NOKTON classic 40mm f:1.4 S.C Lens Leica M fit | eBay

 

Very well. But my version has no engravings and no sticker on the box.

 

So is it an SC, an MC, a rare, valuable unmarked specimen, or a cheap copy from China?:D

 

Owners might have an answer ...

 

Have a nice weekend!

 

MC, ive read that the SC was mainly made for Japan market because they prefer single coated

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Hi, this was the oldest bike at the BMW event.

 

Have a nice Sunday!

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Hi, the entrance area of Zeche ZOLLVEREIN (SONY A7, Leica Summicron 2/35 V4):

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Sorry, folks. Leica lenses only as written in the Forum Rules and as given by this thread's topic, please. Even moderators can find things to do which they enjoy more than hunting down and deleting nice pictures from a thread.
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Hi, no more crappy pictures with non Leica glass here from me.:)

(A7, Leica Summicron 2/50)

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They work better on the A7

Hi, my Voigtländer lenses with 12mm, 15mm and the 4/21 Skopar work better

on the A7 than on my M9 due to the SONY lens correction app.

 

The 1,4/40 I have not tried on both yet. The same goes for the 1,8/75.

 

On the other hand, many UWW/WA Leica lenses disappoint on the A7

because of the multiple SONY sensor deficiencies.

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Hi, my Voigtländer lenses with 12mm, 15mm and the 4/21 Skopar work better

on the A7 than on my M9 due to the SONY lens correction app.

 

The 1,4/40 I have not tried on both yet. The same goes for the 1,8/75.

 

On the other hand, many UWW/WA Leica lenses disappoint on the A7

because of the multiple SONY sensor deficiencies.

I only found out the other day the sensor in the T is a Sony, although I would never considered a camera at that price without a viewfinder

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There was another reply why Leica lenses don't work that well on the A7 but it has suddenly disappeared :-)

Well, this is well understood by now (by most).

 

There is some unpredictability, but this is the consequence of doing your own thing.

 

You are in an unsupported environment, as we say in IT ...

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There are many tests and comments on Leica lenses with the Sony a7® but not so many representative examples (fotos). The issues with WA lenses are well known, but the behaviour depends on the optical constructions too (different retrofocal solutions), not only on the focal length itself, of course.

 

As to vignetting, corner sharpness, (micro)contrast, on the Sony a7 (I tested the 7r too, not that worse as expected) I had very good results with the old Summilux 35 and with the new Summilux 35 asph FLE (a bit better, near perfect).

 

The new Elmarit 2.8/28 asph was disappointing, the version 3 with the lens hood holders is better, version 4 is very unsharp on the Sony.

 

The Elmarit 2.8/24 has some corner unsharpness and vignetting, that can be handled in LR, but is otherwise very good. My favorite lens after the Summilux 35. For me it is a perfect WA focal length in most cases too.

 

I don't know the Elmarit 2.8/21, but the examples in this thread are great (the 2.8/24 is very close in my opinion).

 

I was absolutely surprised with the Super-Elmar 3.8/18. It behaves better than all the elmarits 28. A very good lens on the Sony a7.

 

I did not mention longer focal lengths, but as expected 50 mm and longer don't have any problems with the Sony sensor.

 

Yesterday I was in Wetzlar/Germany and visited Leica Camera and Leica Microscopy. Here are three samples with the Summilux 35 asph FLE on the Sony a7. All uncorrected JPEGs. The second one with 64xND filter and a shutter time of 1/5 s, camera based on a stone. The last one with polarizing filter because of reflections in the vitrine glass. The motives are not optimal for objective tests, but historical highlights. Better examples will follow.

 

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They work better on the A7

 

Wether the Voigtlaender nor the Leica lenses were built to work on the A7. How could it be a shame when a lens won't work well if the cam was constructed years later?

 

Why don't you tell us that it is a shame, that the A7 won't work well with Leica lenses although Sony had the chance to built a sensor for Leica lenses?

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Here some photos from Wetzlar with the Elmarit 2.8/24 on the Sony a7. All of them uncorrected JPEGs.

 

In the cathedral of Wetzlar there was a virtuous violine player, a visitor like me..!

 

 

 

Kind regards

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Wether the Voigtlaender nor the Leica lenses were built to work on the A7. How could it be a shame when a lens won't work well if the cam was constructed years later?

 

Why don't you tell us that it is a shame, that the A7 won't work well with Leica lenses although Sony had the chance to built a sensor for Leica lenses?

 

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I agree with you, Bernd. But I saw several photos taken with the M9 and M240, which showed similar issues of unsharp corners - with old and actual Leica lenses. Leica tried to solve this problems by special micro-lense constructions of their chip and software corrections. It is a general problem in short focal length lenses and a flat sensor, which did not arise that way with film emulsions.

 

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