r7photo Posted December 23, 2013 Share #1 Posted December 23, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Was asked to snap a few shots at baby dedication at church Odd cam behavior or maybe It was user error Tried at first to snap shots rangefinder viewfinder but when previewed shots , shots seemed dark Then up Ev , but only little better Then used live view which took shots in in focused and seemed right exposure , I was worried shots not focused but seemed to be able focus 50 lux ok. Did not see any magnification or focus aid on LCD Shots cam out good but wondered why rangefinder shots darker and guess need to learn live view and check settings? In short live view saved the day And yes not familiar with live view Any help Thx Ron The Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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r7photo Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted December 23, 2013 Anyone??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 23, 2013 Share #3 Posted December 23, 2013 Check your exposure metering settings. "advanced" may give results that differ from "classic" especially with wideangle lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted December 24, 2013 Discovered focus aid was set to Manuel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted December 24, 2013 Share #5 Posted December 24, 2013 For exposure checking, I would suggest using Histogram, not the screen (on any camera). Focus peeking is very subtle and takes some time to spot what you are looking for! The exposure will be exactly the same whether using rangefinder or live view for your selected method (classic or advanced). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted December 25, 2013 Thanks, truth is never used histogram I suspect others not familiar as well So thought I asked Can histogram be used same time as liveview or how would I activate feature. Guess need to explore manual or check web for using histogram and more on live view on m Still confused why shots thru rangefinder were dark but liveview pics were exposed better Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 25, 2013 Share #7 Posted December 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I don’t mean this the usual nasty way, but it really helps to study the manual. A modern digital camera is not the simple machine your film M was. There are a number of settings one must make to adapt the camera to one’s shooting habits. As for exposure, in normal light slight underexposure is not the end of the world. The camera has a wide dynamic range, which translates in quite a bit of exposure latitude. Even severe underexposure can often be salvaged. In fact it pays to underexpose slightly as blown highlight areas can result in odd colours. Focus aid has nothing to do with exposure (as the name indicates). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted December 25, 2013 Thanks, and I suspect others not sure how to use histogram as we'll , pulling out the Manuel and downloading it to ipad , but forum also meant to ask questions etc.. Sorry lots of questions like will histogram appear in EVF ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted December 26, 2013 Share #9 Posted December 26, 2013 Sounds like yo have the metering mode set to 'multi-field" when using LV. this is 'matrix' metering that you will get in an SLR or mirror less camera where the onboard computer will try to analyse the image and come up with a correct exposure from a preset set of algorithms. In 'classic' mode the M is taking the reading off the grey strips on the shutter curtain and is giving a heavily centre weighted exposure just as all leica's have since the implementation of TTL metering in the M6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted December 26, 2013 Very helpful, thanks much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted December 26, 2013 Share #11 Posted December 26, 2013 I'm not being flippant here, just advice... Practice, practice, practice. Sit down with the manual and the camera and experiment with all the settings while taking pictures, checking the results, look at the histogram, look at the results on your computer. Practice processing the files to see how they handle. I have done this just sitting on my living room couch - with the camera, manual and laptop - sometimes exposing the bright window, other times exposing the dark hallway and everything in between. Practice all the settings, with and without the EVF. IMO it's the fastest way to really become familiar with the camera, functions, settings, behaviors, etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethbrp Posted December 26, 2013 Share #12 Posted December 26, 2013 Its wise advise kdriceman says. I took me a fair while when I started shooting my Nikon DSLR to really get to grips with how the camera would meter various different scenes. After a while I could predict how much exposure comp to apply to get pretty close to the correct exposure, There were always times when it would completely throw me, but only by taking many different scenes do you really start to get a feel. Now I have to learn it all over again with my M. Of course if your shoot with either spot of centre weighted, its pretty predictable as to the exposure comp you need to apply, assuming you know where different colour appear on the RBG scale, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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