IPS Posted November 9, 2013 Share #1 Posted November 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry to ask this, as I am sure it must have been asked before ... Can anyone tell me what I have to do in order to get Apple Aperture 3 to show which lens was actually attached to the Leica M240 when a picture was taken? i.e. from the image data. I know there is a fix somewhere; for the M9 I used to run an automator script that would copy the relevant information from one part of the image data to another and all would be fine. As I recall this comes down to a difference of opinion between Leica (and everyone else) about where the lens information should be stored. Its such a shame that this is still an issue even with the M240. You would think that Leica might have got the idea by now that it would be a good idea to put the Lens information in the same place as every other manufacturer. I have searched this forum all over the place and couldn't find the reference to the solution Any advice much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Hi IPS, Take a look here M240 Lens Data in Apple Aperture 3. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jip Posted November 9, 2013 Share #2 Posted November 9, 2013 I used to use Aperture but lack of compatibility with monochrom files and other things like aperture estimate and showing if the lens made me switch to Lightroom. I was also experiencing that Lightroom worked faster on the MacPro and MacBook Pro Retina I own. It takes a while to get used to a Lightroom workflow but wouldn't wanna go back now after 6 months. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPS Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted November 10, 2013 Thanks Jip ... Maybe nobody else is using Aperture for the Leica M anymore?? I'm reluctant to ditch Aperture in many ways as I am so used to using it now + my library within Aperture is pretty big. Switching to Lightroom would be a significant hassle for me and I am not sure that it is worth the switch. There must be a way to get Aperture to recognise M240 lenses like I could with the M9?? The old 'Automator' scripts don't seem to work with the new files though as far as I can tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted November 10, 2013 Share #4 Posted November 10, 2013 I kept aperture and the aperture library, But started clean with Lightroom. I know it sounds hard now but once you're used to it and switched over it'll be okay! So when I need files from PRE 2013 I open up Aperture on my MacPro, if not I use Lightroom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted November 11, 2013 Share #5 Posted November 11, 2013 Go To: VIEW : METADATA DISPLAY Tick Display in Browser and Viewer then CUSTOMISE Expand EXIF Tick what you want ...... Right panel allows you to dictate order. Tick 'show metatdata below image' You should get this ...... assuming I've understood what you want correctly....... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/216354-m240-lens-data-in-apple-aperture-3/?do=findComment&comment=2463225'>More sharing options...
IPS Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted November 11, 2013 Hmmm ... interesting but no not really what I am looking for. However, many thanks for the suggestion. I tried what your idea but, for the M240 files, no matter which options I select in the EXIF list, I cannot get it to show the the Lens name for some reason. Also, more importantly, I would really like the Lens information to propagate through to information contained in exported JPG's. At the moment, Aperture just lops off any data that it does not recognise i.e. in this case, the data about the lens used stored by Leica in their Manufacturers field. ... if that makes sense?? When I look at an image in Aperture and bring up the information panel, for my M240 files, I will always see something like the attached ... It shows the lens as 'Unknown' and, although it knows what focal length was used, it does not seem to be able to detect, from the dng file, the actual lens name. I used to be able to correct this problem automatically with the M9 files ... but for the M240 files, I just done seem to be able to apply the same approach. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/216354-m240-lens-data-in-apple-aperture-3/?do=findComment&comment=2463417'>More sharing options...
jip Posted November 11, 2013 Share #7 Posted November 11, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does it work with M lenses since the 80mm lens is a R lens right? Summilux?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esophoria Posted November 12, 2013 Share #8 Posted November 12, 2013 No, it doesn't work because they are R lenses. It won't work for any lens including M lenses. One obtuse way around the problem is to import the photo files with Adobe Camera Raw first....and save them to another folder. Then import the the photos from the newer folder into Aperture. The lens will then be correctly identified in the Aperture Exif data. One by-product of the above work flow is that the imported DNG file is shrunk in size....I am not sure how that happens. Although the file is smaller I cannot discern any pact of info or quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted November 12, 2013 Share #9 Posted November 12, 2013 No idea why yours don't show In aperture all my lenses show fine .... even the R ones set when I use the Novoflex adapter. No doubt it will be some obscure box somewhere not ticked ..... As for Aperture lopping off exif info when it exports to JPG, I can't help ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 12, 2013 Share #10 Posted November 12, 2013 Here is a screenshot of a Zeiss 28-85 Vario Sonnar on a Novoflex adapter, declared as a Leica Vario Elmarit-R 28-90, opened in Aperture. I have not ticked any boxes or done anything special, as I do not use Aperture (I use Capture 1 V.7 Pro). Although it shows lens as unknown , it shows the correct focal length of 28mm, which is the convention Leica uses for all zoom R lenses, to show the lowest available focal length. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/216354-m240-lens-data-in-apple-aperture-3/?do=findComment&comment=2463657'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted November 12, 2013 Share #11 Posted November 12, 2013 Explanation: In the RAW Leica Exif, 'Lens Model' does not appear in the main EXIF table but is in the Maker Notes. Aperture does not seem to read this. If you convert to JPG or TIFF in LR, the Lens Model DOES appear in the JPG main EXIF table, and Aperture can read it, although why LR adds it I do not know. In Aperture all my JPG & TIFF images show the lens name....... all the RAW files don't ..... but only if they originate from another RAW processor. Those converted within Aperture show nothing. The same is present for M9, MM and M files. Either you can blame Leica for not putting the Lens Model field in the main EXIF table ...... or you blame Aperture for not reading additional info in the EXIF makers notes..... take your pick. Either way, there isn't an easy solution ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPS Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted November 12, 2013 Hmmm ... It is certainly the case that Aperture will not show the lens model data for any DNG file from my M240. Whether its an M or R lens, it makes no difference. I could incorporate LR or ACR in to my workflow ... but that's just an extra annoying step really. For my M9 files (and M8 files for that matter) I used to be able to use an automator script that would run automatically when importing files in to Aperture. The script would copy the Lens Model data from the maker notes across to the EXIF table. That was a good solution as it happened without any intervention from me. It just got on with it in the background. For some reason, this approach no longer works for the M240 files, no idea why??? I have heard that Leica may correct this problem in the next firmware release for the M240 i.e. they may get the camera to put the Lens Model information in to the EXIF table rather than just the maker notes. That would be good as it would be the same approach as every other manufacturer in the world. Its fun to be different ... but not that different! Definitely a Leica issue rather than an Apple Aperture issue. Anyway, many thanks for all of your responses. Iain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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