thondup Posted June 19, 2013 Share #1 Â Posted June 19, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was at the local Leica agent in Taipei and was discussing the Leica Mini and the shortage of the M. It seems the biggest market for the Mini will be in China it seems all Leica cameras are snapped up without any hesitation. So for the long term future of Leica as a company this is very good. But for us true believers we still have to wait for Leica to supply us with real cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest malland Posted June 19, 2013 Share #2  Posted June 19, 2013 In other words, what you're saying, in effect, is that "toy" cameras will be fine for the Chinese market. I doubt that will work. People may buy for reasons of prestige, but they will catch on quickly and want "the real thing".  —Mitch/Bangkok Bangkok Obvious [WIP] Eggleston said that he was "at war with the obvious"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted June 19, 2013 Share #3 Â Posted June 19, 2013 I was at the local Leica agent in Taipei and was discussing the Leica Mini and the shortage of the M. It seems the biggest market for the Mini will be in China it seems all Leica cameras are snapped up without any hesitation. So for the long term future of Leica as a company this is very good. But for us true believers we still have to wait for Leica to supply us with real cameras. Â Depends on how quickly the new factory and new staff get up to speed. I imagine it takes some time to properly train someone to correctly assemble an M or S series camera. But once up and running the wait times should be dramatically reduced. Â Although I am not the market for the X-vario (and I admit to being initially a harsh critic), if the lens is as good at the edges as some say it is, then it will have a market niche, just like the M does. And if the lens and camera are as good as they could be I certainly don't think it'll be any less a 'real" camera than an M for those it suits as a photographic tool. Â gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted June 19, 2013 Share #4 Â Posted June 19, 2013 I was at the local Leica agent in Taipei and was discussing the Leica Mini and the shortage of the M. It seems the biggest market for the Mini will be in China it seems all Leica cameras are snapped up without any hesitation. Â Absolute rubbish. Mainland Chinese buyers have not been "snapping up without hesitation" the X2, or before that the X1. The M-E is mildly successful for those who don't want to continue waiting for an M240, but just like the rest of the world except for a few hard to find items (M240, 50 APO Summicron) nearly everything is in stock here in China, including the X Vario. I have no doubt the X Vario will sell to fashion conscious people around the world, from Italy to LA and yes, even China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted June 24, 2013 Share #5 Â Posted June 24, 2013 It is an interesting fact that Leica M9s and M lenses have became an accepted 'gift' item with a known $ value taged as an accepted or desired item in China in Chinese business circles. Gifts are replacements as outright gifts of cash can easily be identified as a bribery that lead many into trouble with the law in the past. It was only until the most recent antigraft clamp down by Chinese central government in late 2012 that caused Leica Ms to suddenly lost its shine for period only God knows for how long (35mm FLEs were trading above $8k then in HK). When the 'gift' practice returns (most likely soon), then it makes good sense for the Mini M to be a good sales item in China (and Hong kong) for whatever good reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted June 24, 2013 Share #6 Â Posted June 24, 2013 When the 'gift' practice returns (most likely soon), then it makes good sense for the Mini M to be a good sales item in China (and Hong kong) for whatever good reasons. Â I agree that Leica is part of the gift culture here, but I believe the price of "only" around 20000 RMB will mean that this camera will find more success with users and that the higher priced M240 and lenses will remain favorites for gifting, and even more importantly, regiftinig or conversion to cash. Â My wife's aunt, a real estate developer in Chongqing, recently purchased a brand new Mercedes for a government official to win approval for her project. The car was over 500K. While central government announce new programs to crack down on corruption it's going to be a long and hard battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted June 24, 2013 Share #7 Â Posted June 24, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) My wife's aunt, a real estate developer in Chongqing, recently purchased a brand new Mercedes for a government official to win approval for her project. The car was over 500K. While central government announce new programs to crack down on corruption it's going to be a long and hard battle. Â He may be in for a rough ride in his new Mercedes (excuse the pun): Â Inside the secret Chinese jails that strike fear into the Communist Party - Telegraph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted June 27, 2013 Share #8  Posted June 27, 2013 He may be in for a rough ride in his new Mercedes (excuse the pun): Inside the secret Chinese jails that strike fear into the Communist Party - Telegraph  It's all window dressing. The government announce a new "crackdown" on corruption. Restaurants in the government district go two weeks with sales off 90%. After three weeks sales return to 50%. After one month business is back to normal.  It will take more than a few lofty speeches to change the way things work in today's People's Republic of China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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