Eastgreenlander Posted June 14, 2013 Share #1 Posted June 14, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) is that even possible with a CMOS sensor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mmradman Posted June 14, 2013 Share #2 Posted June 14, 2013 is that even possible with a CMOS sensor? Ask yourself what makes CCD sensor monochrome and you will answer your own question - lack of Bayer Filter. I don't know of example of monochrome CMOS sensor but i would hazard the guess that it is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted June 14, 2013 Perhaps a new monchrome down the line. Interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted June 15, 2013 Share #4 Posted June 15, 2013 Perhaps a new monchrome down the line. Interesting Yes, but WAY down the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef63 Posted June 15, 2013 Share #5 Posted June 15, 2013 is that even possible with a CMOS sensor? CMOSIS (supplier of the M sensor) has a Bayer as well as a monochrome version of almost all their standard sensors. The Leica sensor is a non standard CMOSIS product but there is no reason to produce a monochrome version of it. In fact all CMOS (as well as CCD) sensors are monochrome, it's the Bayer filter on top of the sensor that makes them "see" colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted June 15, 2013 Share #6 Posted June 15, 2013 Simply removing the bayer filter doesn't necessarily make the sensor a good monochromatic sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted June 15, 2013 Share #7 Posted June 15, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) is that even possible with a CMOS sensor? Not just possible, but probable. Leica likely has to buy M9-style body castings in large quantities (as in 2000+ in a run), and the supply of Monochrom sensors is not going to hold out forever. It's going to be more efficient to move that product to an M240 platform. Borge is right that you just can't take off the color filter because the camera will be trying to demosaic things that are not color-filtered anymore. But image processing for a b/w camera is considerably easier - there is no complex demosaicing or interpolation. Possibly application of an internal corrective curve to make the sensor look more linear, but that's about it. Truesense (maker of the M8/M9/MM sensor line) now makes monochrome CMOS, so there is no denying that it is possible. But as already pointed out, CMOSIS is already on the task. Dante Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted June 15, 2013 Share #8 Posted June 15, 2013 An easier question: Is it likely for Leica to produce a special version of X any time soon when they can't produce X as fast as they should? It may happen someday, but my money is closer to when the successor of X is about to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted June 15, 2013 Share #9 Posted June 15, 2013 I don't want to start a huge argument here but Leica need to concentrate on getting their color of the CMOSIS sensor right before they do anything else. I would have bought an M weeks ago, but I just couldn't see myself spending time in post trying to make my M pictures look like the M9. Whether the M(240) is selling well or not, it could sell much better if it wan't for the ususal Leica oversights with a new product. Five steps forward, three steps back every single time it seems. Just venting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 15, 2013 Share #10 Posted June 15, 2013 Stefan Daniel was asked this question at last October's Photokina interview. The excerpt is as follows... Question: Will the M-Monochrom remain part of the M-System for the foreseeable future? Stefan Daniel: We want to keep the series of that type. The Monochrom is very successful and we can imagine that there might be a Monochrom variant of the new model. The camera is addictive. Seems fairly clear, other than the timing. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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