A miller Posted January 27, 2016 Share #10241 Posted January 27, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hmm, difficult! Serenity or dynamism? Stillness or motion? Pastel or vibrant tones? Nos 3 & 5 have something of a 'plastic' feel to them and the sunburst in #5 comes across as 'too good to be true'! Not sure the yacht or cruise-liner add anything as they distract from and break-up the panorama. My preference is for #2 due to the dynamic element of the sky/clouds, the crisp delineation of the buildings and the way the light falling on the water 'lifts & separates' the groynes & fences, adding to the 3D effect. Just my 2pence-worth! Thanks a million, Keith. Your 2 pence is priceless. Points all well taken. Thanks again. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A miller Posted January 27, 2016 Share #10242 Posted January 27, 2016 I hope I can develop a roll this afternoon but I'm off work with a trapped femoral nerve in my back, been really missing posting shots because the last few days worth of photos posted here have been fantastic with even more new people joining so sorry to hear about that, Gary! I hope that nerve gets freed up very soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted January 27, 2016 Share #10243 Posted January 27, 2016 so sorry to hear about that, Gary! I hope that nerve gets freed up very soon!Thank you I hope I can get back to work tomorrow 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted January 27, 2016 Share #10244 Posted January 27, 2016 Hi David If I shoot a few frames at a higher EI on a roll I have mainly exposed as box speed then I will not ask the lab to push process. Depending on the scene, the film used and how well I manage to meter it usually works out (but it might not; that's the risk one takes). The film that works the best in this respect is Portra 400. I've shot that at around EI200-EI800 (give or take) and had it developed at box speed. The results have been remarkably good. As Adam says, depending on the type of light sources in a scene the colour balance can go off. In my experience it's often yellow or quite cool blue, which is a bit difficult to predict and can cause extra work in post. Here are a few examples of a Portra 400 shot in this way (M3, 50/1.4LTM, Coolscan V): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip, interesting stuff and good colour in the images. When developing C41 do you need to allow for a different development time if you have pushed 1 or 2 stops ? I ask this as you suggest that there be only a couple of images on a reel that you have pushed, which may need the decision of favouring the pushed or non-pushed images and risking some colour shift. 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2977375'>More sharing options...
honcho Posted January 27, 2016 Share #10245 Posted January 27, 2016 ..........As for my goal for these photos, I want to end up with 1 or 2 of each of the B&W and color for inclusion in a portfolio of exclusively film-based NYC cityscape photographs that could be sold primarily online on a tasteful website (that I am carefully plotting) and through other mediums. I am not seeking out only those "hole in one" photographs, like Peter Lik. Rather, I have a more modest goal of competing with the better photographers who sell their prints through sites like www.fineartamerica.com. It is enough for me that the scene has good composition with broad public interest and a well balanced and unique color palette with a signature of medium format film. I see this as a long term multi-year process, with a lot of pruning of the collection during this time..... You're on the right track, Adam. Once you have a substantial enough portfolio it's time to go door-knocking and get your work into good quality galleries and outlets. There will be pressure upon yourself to rush but take your time and concentrate on a cohesive body of work to consolidate your style, this is a long term project. I like your strategy and I look forward to seeing it bear fruit for you. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iduna Posted January 27, 2016 Share #10246 Posted January 27, 2016 Adam, soooo, this is quite a challenge to select the favourites. First of all: all the pictures, those with the cruise liners being left aside, have a great potential. Composition, lighting, vantage point and rendering are excellent. But even on this high level you wanted to know about their specific effect. I cannot make a final choice, because each of them cold be a winner. I'll tell you where I see some potential for finding a winner even if I do not have a highend monitor. no 1 - 1 +++ in its cool, balance, distant and therefore artistic beauty. no 2 - same as no 1 but even more attracting by the sky providing a movement that draw the viewer into the picture. no 3 - very good but to my taste a tad too pale no 4 - lovely light and by its foreground a very attractive composition which is giving the viewer a basis from where to enter the picture. no 5 - good effect, cool - I like such stars. Perhaps this effect as a large print would loose power because it is so dominant. no 6 - same as above but here there is more harmony in terms of temperature which may indicate s longer survival of interest. no 7 - the rippling water is shiny but probably not the main issue here and the buildings should have more texture or contrast. no 8 - good smooth even mystic water effect. Also here I would reduce the orange luminance in order to get more texture in the buildings. This should be possible. no 9 - good glassy water. I think the liner is not the subject being hidden behind the poles and covering half of Manhattan South no 10 - very good and I would like also in this image a tad more contrast and texture in the buildings. There is more potential also in this shot. 11 - better than no 10 in terms of contrast of the architecural elements. 12 - fantastic, almost a winner if you could manage to bring down the luminance or brightness of Manhattan.The sky is prviding a lovely frame of this magic shiny light and its reflections. As mentioned before I can only see things on my monitor and on a bigger screen one may come to slightly different conclusions. Taste is always personal anyway. I hope this small review will be an encouragement for further work on this series and help make decisions easier. Adam, a great job this series is and a fine interesting project. Thansk for sharing it. This is a dream to realize a project like this. Congratulation! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 27, 2016 Share #10247 Posted January 27, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pfäffikon by -Ric Capucho- Monster carp that have safely *grown* in a castle moat. XP2 and maybe the M6, hard to remember. Question for Adam and others: can you recommend any available colour films for handheld night photography? I'm thinking to seeing how the neon lights in the seedier parts of Zürich might look in their full "glory". Ric Lovely photo, Ric! When I was bumming around Zürich (oh, about twenty three years ago...), I shot a lot of ISO 100 and 200 color negative film at night to capture the lights and the street scenes. Faster films were a waste: they were too contrasty and grainy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted January 28, 2016 Share #10248 Posted January 28, 2016 Adam, soooo, this is quite a challenge to select the favourites. First of all: all the pictures, those with the cruise liners being left aside, have a great potential. Composition, lighting, vantage point and rendering are excellent. But even on this high level you wanted to know about their specific effect. I cannot make a final choice, because each of them cold be a winner. I'll tell you where I see some potential for finding a winner even if I do not have a highend monitor. no 1 - 1 +++ in its cool, balance, distant and therefore artistic beauty. no 2 - same as no 1 but even more attracting by the sky providing a movement that draw the viewer into the picture. no 3 - very good but to my taste a tad too pale no 4 - lovely light and by its foreground a very attractive composition which is giving the viewer a basis from where to enter the picture. no 5 - good effect, cool - I like such stars. Perhaps this effect as a large print would loose power because it is so dominant. no 6 - same as above but here there is more harmony in terms of temperature which may indicate s longer survival of interest. no 7 - the rippling water is shiny but probably not the main issue here and the buildings should have more texture or contrast. no 8 - good smooth even mystic water effect. Also here I would reduce the orange luminance in order to get more texture in the buildings. This should be possible. no 9 - good glassy water. I think the liner is not the subject being hidden behind the poles and covering half of Manhattan South no 10 - very good and I would like also in this image a tad more contrast and texture in the buildings. There is more potential also in this shot. 11 - better than no 10 in terms of contrast of the architecural elements. 12 - fantastic, almost a winner if you could manage to bring down the luminance or brightness of Manhattan.The sky is prviding a lovely frame of this magic shiny light and its reflections. As mentioned before I can only see things on my monitor and on a bigger screen one may come to slightly different conclusions. Taste is always personal anyway. I hope this small review will be an encouragement for further work on this series and help make decisions easier. Adam, a great job this series is and a fine interesting project. Thansk for sharing it. This is a dream to realize a project like this. Congratulation! Hi Iduna - wow, what great comments! I will study them one by one and look to improve. I really appreciate your time and your articulate expression of your perspective! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2016 Share #10249 Posted January 28, 2016 Ric - there is no question in my mind that the Cinestill 800T is the best choice for artificial and low light. The red halos are what they are. Most people love them. To the extent it is not appealing, it is materially outweighed by the superior rendition of artificial light. The portras will generally have an ugly orange cast to tungsten light, with is hard to avoid in the streets. Slide film actually fares pretty well; it's just that those available on the market are very slow. Pushing is an option but you need to remember to expose for the highlights and expect VERY contrasty results, which can be cool except when it is not One thing you might consider is to go on ebay and buy some expired 1600T ektachrome that has been well kept. The prices are pretty good, there is a lot out there, and the results you'll get will at that very least be quite unique. I really come back to the Cinestill 800T - that is what it was made for and it does a very good job. Let me know if you have difficult getting some as I can bring some over to you on my next trip to London. ($10/roll + 8.775% sales tax) Hey Adam, I will try thenCinestill then. Mate, I'll contact you soon to figure out how and when. Kind Regards, Ric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted January 28, 2016 Share #10250 Posted January 28, 2016 Back to some light humor... Wall Street M-A, 28mm elmarit pre-asph, Portra 400 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2977669'>More sharing options...
dgc Posted January 28, 2016 Share #10251 Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Hey Adam, I will try thenCinestill then. Mate, I'll contact you soon to figure out how and when. Kind Regards, Ric Ric, try here: http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/CineStill-Colour-Film/products/937/ Edited January 28, 2016 by dgc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted January 28, 2016 Share #10252 Posted January 28, 2016 Kodachrome ... 1980 Boston Marathon , Fred Lebow, father of the NYC Marathon is the gent on the left, not sure who is on the right .... somewhere I have a slide of Bill Rodgers, who used to win the marathon regularly at that time and then created a line of running clothes ... 1980 really was a long time ago, Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2977753'>More sharing options...
sblitz Posted January 28, 2016 Share #10253 Posted January 28, 2016 and for Doc, here is one Kodachrome taken in Paris 1983, and I did not pose her, just the way it was in the Tuileries (I believe) ..... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2977755'>More sharing options...
dgc Posted January 28, 2016 Share #10254 Posted January 28, 2016 Hi David If I shoot a few frames at a higher EI on a roll I have mainly exposed as box speed then I will not ask the lab to push process. Depending on the scene, the film used and how well I manage to meter it usually works out (but it might not; that's the risk one takes). The film that works the best in this respect is Portra 400. I've shot that at around EI200-EI800 (give or take) and had it developed at box speed. The results have been remarkably good. As Adam says, depending on the type of light sources in a scene the colour balance can go off. In my experience it's often yellow or quite cool blue, which is a bit difficult to predict and can cause extra work in post. Here are a few examples of a Portra 400 shot in this way (M3, 50/1.4LTM, Coolscan V): 19091572504_dd001a2857_b.jpg 19091492234_b82439e4bb_b.jpg Philip, thanks for this. That is reassuring to know that, depending on the light, mostly you can get it to work. The images are very good and the colour rendition is very pleasing to the eye. I have tended to dismiss colour film and concentrated on B&W as I can process this at home. However, the colour photographs posted here show that there is real worth in pursuing colour film. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted January 28, 2016 Share #10255 Posted January 28, 2016 last trip down memory lane tonight, Yankee Stadium being rebuilt in 1974 from the original which opened in 1922. This one was torn down after the 2009 season and the new one stands across the street .... the view is from an elevated subway stop from where it used to possible to watch games before the 1974 version of the stadium was constructed. The steel frame held the score board "REG-GIE!" and adds that made the back wall of the bleachers. Sorry to go on, but it will always be a special place in my life ...... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2977757'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share #10256 Posted January 28, 2016 and for Doc, here is one Kodachrome taken in Paris 1983, and I did not pose her, just the way it was in the Tuileries (I believe) ..... Steve beautiful series. The statue is still there Thank you for posting Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share #10257 Posted January 28, 2016 Back to some light humor... Wall Street M-A, 28mm elmarit pre-asph, Portra 400 Yes well seen ! Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share #10258 Posted January 28, 2016 Hi David If I shoot a few frames at a higher EI on a roll I have mainly exposed as box speed then I will not ask the lab to push process. Depending on the scene, the film used and how well I manage to meter it usually works out (but it might not; that's the risk one takes). The film that works the best in this respect is Portra 400. I've shot that at around EI200-EI800 (give or take) and had it developed at box speed. The results have been remarkably good. As Adam says, depending on the type of light sources in a scene the colour balance can go off. In my experience it's often yellow or quite cool blue, which is a bit difficult to predict and can cause extra work in post. Here are a few examples of a Portra 400 shot in this way (M3, 50/1.4LTM, Coolscan V): 19091572504_dd001a2857_b.jpg 19091492234_b82439e4bb_b.jpg Very nice pictures Philip Well done Thanks Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share #10259 Posted January 28, 2016 Sunset at 10.000 m ... on the departure of hum. mission 2013 above the Caucasus Kodak Portra 400 M7-28 Cron Asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry Kodak Portra a fabulous film 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry Kodak Portra a fabulous film ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2977779'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share #10260 Posted January 28, 2016 From the infinity large to the infinity small wild daisy in macrophotography M7-90 Macro Elmar- Macroadapter +Tripod + patience because wind Fuji Superia 100 Picture uncropped and uncorrected Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2977783'>More sharing options...
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