oldwino Posted March 18, 2024 Share #89681 Posted March 18, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 21 hours ago, Ernest said: Hardwire MP APO 50 w/Leica polarizer ADOX Mission Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Love this one - the colors are powerful, and I love the way it transitions from order to chaos. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thschm Posted March 18, 2024 Share #89682 Posted March 18, 2024 (edited) Woman with dog On the beach of Valkenisse, Netherlands, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leicaflex SL2, Summicron 2,0/50mm, Ilford FP4+, Cinestill Df, Darktable, Epson V800 Edited March 18, 2024 by thschm 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leicaflex SL2, Summicron 2,0/50mm, Ilford FP4+, Cinestill Df, Darktable, Epson V800 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5111495'>More sharing options...
Ernest Posted March 18, 2024 Share #89683 Posted March 18, 2024 Turnabout MP APO 50 ADOX Mission Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 14 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5111810'>More sharing options...
Ernest Posted March 18, 2024 Share #89684 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/17/2024 at 9:55 AM, DreiPunkte said: Hi Ernest Above all, I think it's great how you handle the colors in your pictures, my big respect for that! But some graphic elements often block my access to your color worlds. I like your work very much I appreciate your generous comments, DreiPunkte. Abstract color fields, for me, is inviting and challenging, playing on that tight rope between painting and photography. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest Posted March 18, 2024 Share #89685 Posted March 18, 2024 23 hours ago, stray cat said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! vertigo 2024 m6ttl, 50mm, airport-scanned fp4+ Do we detect a marketing opportunity here--WASE, Wright Airport Scanned Emulsions? There is definitely a kind of atomic quality going on here. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kl@usW. Posted March 19, 2024 Share #89686 Posted March 19, 2024 Am 18.3.2024 um 00:35 schrieb stray cat: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! vertigo 2024 m6ttl, 50mm, airport-scanned fp4+ Phil, great photo, and yes, Hitchcock was there too.... "airport-scanned"-- you're touching on a point that's really bothering me right now: film and long-distance travel. Your images may look good, but apparently there have been or are issues? I'm planning to travel to Japan in May and will have to pass through at least two scanners: Frankfurt and Tokyo... With the increasing reports, there seems to be a particular risk for fast films — that's why I've already abandoned my original plans to pack an MP, a Rolleiflex, along with plenty of P 400, P800, and a few HP5 films, and switched to P160 and FP4+. From what I understand now, your FP4 films have also suffered? That would indeed be frustrating for your fantastic photos... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreiPunkte Posted March 19, 2024 Share #89687 Posted March 19, 2024 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 35 minutes ago, Kl@usW. said: Phil, great photo, and yes, Hitchcock was there too.... "airport-scanned"-- you're touching on a point that's really bothering me right now: film and long-distance travel. Your images may look good, but apparently there have been or are issues? I'm planning to travel to Japan in May and will have to pass through at least two scanners: Frankfurt and Tokyo... With the increasing reports, there seems to be a particular risk for fast films — that's why I've already abandoned my original plans to pack an MP, a Rolleiflex, along with plenty of P 400, P800, and a few HP5 films, and switched to P160 and FP4+. From what I understand now, your FP4 films have also suffered? That would indeed be frustrating for your fantastic photos... Hi Klaus On flights, I always pack my films in an extra bag/pounch in my cabin luggage, which I present at the security check without being asked. I say that it is sensitive film material and so they inspect the films by eye mostly the camera bag too. My films were never scanned this way, especially when using fast lane processing. I also stored my filmrolls in empty metall bulkfilm tins. 7 reels goes easy in one tin maybe it will help if they are accidendly running through a scanner. Edited March 19, 2024 by DreiPunkte 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stray cat Posted March 19, 2024 Share #89688 Posted March 19, 2024 Thank you very much Klaus, I truly appreciate your thoughts and I agree with DreiPunkte's analysis. Further to that I would recommend getting one of Domke's lead-lined satchels to carry film. I think Tokyo would be pretty OK with hand-inspecting film, I don't know about Frankfurt. Over and above that, I would primarily recommend buying your film at your destination and, if possible, having it processed before flying again. From what I understand film is pretty popular in Japan, so I doubt you'd have trouble finding a lab handy to where you will be staying. However having said that I must add that, even though this FP4+ of mine went through Melbourne airport's CT scanner without being in my Domke lead-lined bag, I can't actually see any damage. I only had the one roll with me as I had some rolls of HP5+ waiting for me in Seattle which I'd ordered online through Adorama. I brought the HP5 home with me to process knowing that US airport security always complies with polite requests for hand inspection of film. You might be interested to read this, as the lab undertook a comprehensive testing process: https://carmencitafilmlab.com/blog/airport-x-ray-will-they-ruin-your-film/ Now I do envy you your trip to Japan and can hardly wait too see your wonderful photographs when you get back! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post espelt Posted March 19, 2024 Popular Post Share #89689 Posted March 19, 2024 Marbach Modern Literature Museum, David Chipperfield Architects Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M6 . Summicron 35 . HP5 21 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M6 . Summicron 35 . HP5 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5114423'>More sharing options...
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Kl@usW. Posted March 19, 2024 Share #89695 Posted March 19, 2024 vor 10 Stunden schrieb DreiPunkte: Hi Klaus On flights, I always pack my films in an extra bag/pounch in my cabin luggage, which I present at the security check without being asked. I say that it is sensitive film material and so they inspect the films by eye mostly the camera bag too. My films were never scanned this way, especially when using fast lane processing. I also stored my filmrolls in empty metall bulkfilm tins. 7 reels goes easy in one tin maybe it will help if they are accidendly running through a scanner. vor 9 Stunden schrieb stray cat: Thank you very much Klaus, I truly appreciate your thoughts and I agree with DreiPunkte's analysis. Further to that I would recommend getting one of Domke's lead-lined satchels to carry film. I think Tokyo would be pretty OK with hand-inspecting film, I don't know about Frankfurt. Over and above that, I would primarily recommend buying your film at your destination and, if possible, having it processed before flying again. From what I understand film is pretty popular in Japan, so I doubt you'd have trouble finding a lab handy to where you will be staying. However having said that I must add that, even though this FP4+ of mine went through Melbourne airport's CT scanner without being in my Domke lead-lined bag, I can't actually see any damage. I only had the one roll with me as I had some rolls of HP5+ waiting for me in Seattle which I'd ordered online through Adorama. I brought the HP5 home with me to process knowing that US airport security always complies with polite requests for hand inspection of film. You might be interested to read this, as the lab undertook a comprehensive testing process: https://carmencitafilmlab.com/blog/airport-x-ray-will-they-ruin-your-film/ Now I do envy you your trip to Japan and can hardly wait too see your wonderful photographs when you get back! Thank you very much, DreiPunkte and Phil, for the helpful ideas and the link to carmencita. Based on my previous experiences, security personnel in Europe are usually not willing to deviate from their routine. The standard response is typically: "The scanners are safe, please place your belongings on the belt now." Nonetheless, I will try again. The Domke bag has been ordered; I still need to search for a bulk film canister. Then I will also investigate whether it is possible to order films in Japan and have them sent to my first hotel. Alternatively, I could take a minimum amount of films with me and trust that I can buy the rest locally. Thank you again! K. PS: the Portra 800 MF-rolls I shot in Patagonia and Easter Island a couple of years ago were definitely fogged. Less so the P400. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christoph_d Posted March 19, 2024 Share #89696 Posted March 19, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kl@usW. said: Thank you very much, DreiPunkte and Phil, for the helpful ideas and the link to carmencita. Based on my previous experiences, security personnel in Europe are usually not willing to deviate from their routine. The standard response is typically: "The scanners are safe, please place your belongings on the belt now." Nonetheless, I will try again. The Domke bag has been ordered; I still need to search for a bulk film canister. Then I will also investigate whether it is possible to order films in Japan and have them sent to my first hotel. Alternatively, I could take a minimum amount of films with me and trust that I can buy the rest locally. Thank you again! K. PS: the Portra 800 MF-rolls I shot in Patagonia and Easter Island a couple of years ago were definitely fogged. Less so the P400. In my experience most X-ray machines (in Europe) are reasonably safe. The problem are the newer CT scanners; perhaps they need higher radiation levels to do their 3d thing? However, with these newer machines so far I have always managed to have my films hand-controlled (they swipe the film with a probe which is then chemically analyzed). I once made the mistake to let a half full roll of iso 200 in the MP that went through the CT scanner. I believe they gave it an extra dose - or that was done automatically - to look through the metal body of the camera. That was the one film that was fogged, as I noticed a greying/fogging on the normally clear border outside the photo area on the film, which was not present on my other rolls. I have no experience with lead lined bags, but if I was responsible for passenger safety I would fry them with my x-rays until I could see inside - defeating their purpose… Good luck in any case! Edited March 19, 2024 by christoph_d 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Lord Posted March 19, 2024 Share #89697 Posted March 19, 2024 Ginco, Autumn 2023. Porta 400. Noctilux F1 at a 'normal' aperture. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5116341'>More sharing options...
stray cat Posted March 19, 2024 Share #89698 Posted March 19, 2024 1 hour ago, christoph_d said: In my experience most X-ray machines (in Europe) are reasonably safe. The problem are the newer CT scanners; perhaps they need higher radiation levels to do their 3d thing? However, with these newer machines so far I have always managed to have my films hand-controlled (they swipe the film with a probe which is then chemically analyzed). I once made the mistake to let a half full roll of iso 200 in the MP that went through the CT scanner. I believe they gave it an extra dose - or that was done automatically - to look through the metal body of the camera. That was the one film that was fogged, as I noticed a greying/fogging on the normally clear border outside the photo area on the film, which was not present on my other rolls. I have no experience with lead lined bags, but if I was responsible for passenger safety I would fry them with my x-rays until I could see inside - defeating their purpose… Good luck in any case! My understanding from previous discussions on x-rayed film is that the airport security machines are all specifically calibrated and the dose of x-ray juice is not adjusted for individual pieces passing through. On the odd occasion my lead-lined bag has been questioned the security staff simply divert the carry-on bag for manual inspection in which case the film is hand-inspected anyway. I have never had film that has been in a lead-lined bag fogged or otherwise damaged when it has gone through even multiple x-rays at multiple airports. As far as passenger safety is concerned, if security staff are in doubt about any objects detected in their initial inspections they will divert those bags for further (manual) inspection - lead-lined bags containing film included. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christoph_d Posted March 20, 2024 Share #89699 Posted March 20, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, stray cat said: My understanding from previous discussions on x-rayed film is that the airport security machines are all specifically calibrated and the dose of x-ray juice is not adjusted for individual pieces passing through. On the odd occasion my lead-lined bag has been questioned the security staff simply divert the carry-on bag for manual inspection in which case the film is hand-inspected anyway. I have never had film that has been in a lead-lined bag fogged or otherwise damaged when it has gone through even multiple x-rays at multiple airports. As far as passenger safety is concerned, if security staff are in doubt about any objects detected in their initial inspections they will divert those bags for further (manual) inspection - lead-lined bags containing film included. Hi Phil, perhaps you are right, though I prefer to err on the side of caution (or perhaps will buy a lead lined bag and do an experiment on my next flight 😊). On occasion security staff that was not happy with their initial xray scan have had me unpack my bag into a tray and sent it through the machine a second time 🥺(usually if the bag contains dense items like leicas and lenses)… As so often you may find additional info on the web, for example: https://petapixel.com/2021/07/06/what-happens-if-your-film-goes-through-the-tsas-ct-scanners/ and: https://thedarkroom.com/bringing-film-airport-security-x-rays-film/ PS: Furthermore I observe that increasingly musea have x-ray scanners installed, from the Hagia Sophia to the Musée D’Orasay, so it may be prudent to take precautions there as well. Edited March 20, 2024 by christoph_d 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christoph_d Posted March 20, 2024 Share #89700 Posted March 20, 2024 One afterthought: I am very glad that we don’t use film on nitrate base any more! Try to get through airport security with one of those. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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