Doc Henry Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share #7901 Posted November 15, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Adam, for me Ektar is the first no ? Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A miller Posted November 15, 2015 Share #7902 Posted November 15, 2015 Adam, for me Ektar is the first no ? Henry Henry - and what are your reasons for this choice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted November 15, 2015 Share #7903 Posted November 15, 2015 M7, Cron 90, XP2, HC-110: Emily by chrism229, on Flickr Chris 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpavich Posted November 15, 2015 Share #7904 Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Another test roll. This time I was wondering if I could just shoot a partial roll and develop only those shots. I had a roll of Tri-X 135-36 in the camera and was impatient to make sure that everything was ok with my focus. I had shot 14 shots so I took a sacrificial roll and marked off 14 frames using a sharpie and then I started it threading onto a Paterson roll and counted the "ratchets" so that 14 shots got onto the roll.Then I threaded the real film onto the roll and went into the dark bag. I ratcheted it the same number of times and put it into the tank.After developing I found that it worked perfectly..the exact right amount of images was developed. I put the rest of the film back into the camera.Good to know.M6 with Summarit-M 35/2.5 Edited November 15, 2015 by rpavich 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted November 15, 2015 Share #7905 Posted November 15, 2015 More fun with Adox Silvermax, Tom & Danni tying the knot in Calderdale. Leica MP 35mm summicron asph Adox Silvermax in Silvermax developer: 11 minutes @ 20 deg., 4 inversions per minute. It's a beautiful wedding picture. Lots to see. Love the young boys attitude. Is he saying 'don't do it' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted November 15, 2015 Share #7906 Posted November 15, 2015 visavis.jpg So....a horse walks into a bar... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleinkamera Posted November 16, 2015 Share #7907 Posted November 16, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Very interesting capture with your perfect timing for the lights and the birds as if composed for the purpose of your picture Thank you, James. I was lucky… on my way to a hotel, dragging my travel bag behind me. I just happened to look up at just the right moment! James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleinkamera Posted November 16, 2015 Share #7908 Posted November 16, 2015 To clarify, I of course was only describing my exposure reading workflow in the context of my MF photography. Not 35mm. I am not "obsessive" about this with 35mm film as I do not like the feeling of my head being banged against the wall repeatedly If all LF (and many MF landscape film photographers) didn't follow procedure similar to the one that I outlined (or even more elaborate), I'd be shocked. And it only takes a few seconds once you get the hang. I really only brought it up in the context of getting the most out of Ektar's wonderfully balanced saturation qualities. For example, if you are shooting a sunrise or sunset and trying to capture the brilliant pastel (as opposed to a primary-type color) colors in the sky, the EV in the sky better not be higher than zone 8 (and in some cases 7 or even 6) or else the Ektar won't sing for you. This is probably true of portra as well, but then again you aren't shooting portra to give you brilliant saturation. You in-camera spot meter probably works just fine, particularly if you don't mind bracketing. But it aint as precise as a 1 degree spot meter, which is really needed in order to hone in precisely on those darkest and brightest EVs in a vast scene (for averaging purposes), which is really most important with the larger size film. Adam, I suppose it won't be surprising that, like Doc, I lean toward the lower-contrast colors of Portra. But I do have some Ektar to shoot and your information about the rigid exposure requirements for that film is most helpful. I only shoot 35mm these days and so will not be too concerned about going overboard with metering techniques but it's still good to know what to expect - and have a good basis for understanding what I see in the resulting pictures. And your recent pictures from Central Park are excellent, really looking forward to more of those! James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleinkamera Posted November 16, 2015 Share #7909 Posted November 16, 2015 near Crested Butte, Colorado M Elmar 50 f2.8, Portra 160 James 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted November 16, 2015 Share #7910 Posted November 16, 2015 Adam, I suppose it won't be surprising that, like Doc, I lean toward the lower-contrast colors of Portra. But I do have some Ektar to shoot and your information about the rigid exposure requirements for that film is most helpful. I only shoot 35mm these days and so will not be too concerned about going overboard with metering techniques but it's still good to know what to expect - and have a good basis for understanding what I see in the resulting pictures. And your recent pictures from Central Park are excellent, really looking forward to more of those! James Many thanks, James. You use portra quite effectively and I see nothing lacking. Would you be willing to opine (for fun) as to which of the photos that I posted yesterday is portra 160 and which is ektar? Henry has stated his opinion but I am waiting for him to provide his reasoning... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted November 16, 2015 Share #7911 Posted November 16, 2015 near Crested Butte, Colorado M Elmar 50 f2.8, Portra 160 James This is really gorgeous, James, in every way 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleinkamera Posted November 16, 2015 Share #7912 Posted November 16, 2015 Many thanks, James. You use portra quite effectively and I see nothing lacking. Would you be willing to opine (for fun) as to which of the photos that I posted yesterday is portra 160 and which is ektar? Henry has stated his opinion but I am waiting for him to provide his reasoning... Without comparing two photos created at the same time and therefore, more similar than these two, it makes it more difficult to choose! However, I'm going to say the first one is Portra. I base this mostly on the blue-ish spectrum colors, which look a bit more like Portra to me. James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleinkamera Posted November 17, 2015 Share #7913 Posted November 17, 2015 On the other hand… the first one does have more pronounced pinks and such… now I'm kinda leaning toward saying the first is Ektar. But each time I look I can convince myself it's the other way around! James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted November 17, 2015 Share #7914 Posted November 17, 2015 A few recent ones. A couple of landscapes. (Tmax 100 and 35mm Summicron ASPH.) Battle of Britain Memorial Flight just about to take off from my local airfield. The plane in the foreground, P7350, is apparently the oldest airworthy spitfire and the only one to have actually flown in the Battle of Britain. (Fuji Acros 100 and 35mm Summicron ASPH.) Like the landscapes. Shame the BBMF is missing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted November 17, 2015 Share #7915 Posted November 17, 2015 Hi Adam, I'm afraid my thoughts are like James's; I've also gone back and forth for the same reasons he describes. I also wondered, if both are on the same film format (the image ratio differs)? I'm asking because, to me, grain, contrast and even colour differ between 135 and 120 film. I guess both are straight from the scanner but even if as identical as possible settings have been used the exercise becomes somewhat difficult (apologies) because C41, unlike E6, will require editing to become a positive image. For instance, how did you invert and get rid of the orange mask - ColorPerfect? If so, it'd be almost impossible to compare the colour between them in the sense that if I were to shoot the same two films in similar light the editing on my system would result in different tones. And having used both films my impression of each is of course informed by how they look on my system after my editing. I like a challenge though In my experience Portra 160 is less muted than its ISO 400 sibling but I'm not sure it is as bright as Ektar. So on that basis I'd say the first is Ektar. Ultimately one's own subjective "artistic" choice decides how an image should look. And it may, of course, be that one wants to depict reality, colour-wise, as "correctly" as possible and thus the subjective choice is really a subjectively objective choice. If one feels that using a particular film stock plays an important part in achieving that goal, then that's naturally OK. Personally, I'm not such a purist and shoot all sorts of film. I also edit all photos in post to get a photo I like and which more or less looks like what I think I saw when I took it. Below is a Portra 400, which I have recently begun using a bit more in 120. Br Philip Flickr 203FE 80/2.8 (wet mount) 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoiDuNord Posted November 17, 2015 Share #7916 Posted November 17, 2015 Giovinazzo Harbor, Bari, Italia Kodachrome 25 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2930663'>More sharing options...
RoiDuNord Posted November 17, 2015 Share #7917 Posted November 17, 2015 Repairing Fishing Nets Giovinazzo, Bari, Italia Kodachrome 25 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2930665'>More sharing options...
sblitz Posted November 17, 2015 Share #7918 Posted November 17, 2015 Adam -- First looks like portra second ektar. as a side note, I can in CaptureOne make Portra look like Ektar but not the reverse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoiDuNord Posted November 17, 2015 Share #7919 Posted November 17, 2015 Thanks, sblitz, philipus, & gbealnz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted November 18, 2015 Share #7920 Posted November 18, 2015 Ripples & Rocks. At Noja on the Spanish Atlantic coast. M7, Summaron 35mm, Portra 160. Love the colours here Keith. Summer seems ages ago.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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