Doc Henry Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share #7161 Posted October 10, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Senanque Abbey Vaucluse (France) Oct 2015 Kodak Portra 160 M7-35 LA Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902538'>More sharing options...
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A miller Posted October 10, 2015 Share #7162 Posted October 10, 2015 Hi Michael - it was 15 exposures, approx 20 min apart, on one frame. br Philip Hi Adam - I've seen that many use slide film for night sky photography with medium format (and I've done that too) but the moon has such an extreme variation in exposure values during the expsures that it's difficult to preven blown highlights. Even with C41 the brighter parts will be very overexposed. Yes, I agree and I also wouldn't have used slide film for this. There just doesn't seem to be enough upside given the risk of blowing highlights and detail in the moon, which is particularly acute given the single frame. Portra 400 makes some sense given the extra speed. EKTAR would have been my initial instinct (for the superior color saturation, particularly with the red tones); but after thinking through it I may have also gone with the Portra 400, as the two extra stops is very helpful here. I am impressed at ho you managed to determine the starting and stopping point such that you kept it in the single frame. I know there are apps for this and that smart people can find out all this stuff in advance. It is just really cool. I am also interested in the aperture that you used. I am aware of astronotographers (or whatever they are called) using a wide open aperture to maximize shutter speed. Just wondering what your thought process was... Overall, if it looks as good on paper as it does on the screen, I think you've gotten yourself a real magnum opus! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted October 11, 2015 Share #7163 Posted October 11, 2015 With all the great images being posted, I need to go shoot some more to keep up. My Europe shots are stil being scanned, slowly, though. A wet and miserable day in Paris, this near the Pantheon, in the Latin Quarter near where we were staying. M6, 50 Summicron M col. T-Max100, Rodinal 1:50. Gary Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902576'>More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted October 11, 2015 Share #7164 Posted October 11, 2015 But Prague was brighter, and the architecture different. According to Google Maps, this is "Municipal House" in Republiky, Prague. Beautiful fascade anyway, simply beautiful. M6, 35 Summicron, Ilford Delta 100. Rodinal 1:50. Gary Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902579'>More sharing options...
philipus Posted October 11, 2015 Share #7165 Posted October 11, 2015 Thank you Adam. The spacing of the moon was pure luck. I read somewhere that about 20 minutes would be good so tried that. I was surprised to see how much the moon moves if one misses by just 30-60 secs (as can be seen the sequence is not perfect but for a first ever attempt I'm satisfied). For this photo I wouldn't have used Ektar, though, for a few reasons. I am generally not persuaded by its colour accuracy. Every time I have the colours have come out looking unrealistic. It's certainly also a matter of preference. For a photo like this, where the main object is the moon, any colour accuracy or saturation benefits wouldn't have made a big difference. Also, these type of photos require a lot of colour correction in post (the scan looks very different from the final image). For general astro photo Ektar would be too slow to catch enough stars and would introduce limitations regarding the shutter speed in other respect (next para). So I was set on using an ISO 400 film. I've used Provia 400X with good results but knew that would prove impossible due to the exposure latitude required for the moon. But for ordinary star photography slide film is great. There's a correlation between, on the one hand, the earth's rotation, the focal length, aperture and film sensitivity used and, on the other hand, the extent to which stars will appear as trails, even short ones. Some talk of a 500 rule, others a 600 rule - divide that number by the focal length to find the number of seconds the shutter can be open without stars beginning to trail. This is not the whole story, however, because it also depends on how high (declination) on the sky one photographs. This page (in Swedish) has a table at the bottom for the declination factor by which the shutter time can be extended without significantly increasing the risk that the stars trail or appear oval (if one wants to avoid this). If one uses a longer focal length one will need to use the lowest declination factor of the sky portion covered by the lens to prevent trails. As you can see, for an 80mm MF lens, which is approximately equivalent horizontally to a 50m small format lens, the 500/600 rule and the chart differ regarding the recommended shutter speed, from 10 to 16 sec. In my testing even at about 6 sec stars will become elongated. The extent to which this affects the photo depends on things like image size, resolution etc. An ISO 100 film will register much less faint stars than an ISO 400 film. Concerning aperture I simply went with the widest possible to get the fastest shutter speed. The 80 Planar is acceptably sharp already at 2.8. For this photo, given the (astronomical) distances and the fact that the multiple exposures would blur the tree there wasn't a need to consider depth of field. For a normal star photo with a stationary foreground object a smaller aperture may be necessary but that would introduce star trail limitations, which is why wider lenses are best used for such photos. best Philip Yes, I agree and I also wouldn't have used slide film for this. There just doesn't seem to be enough upside given the risk of blowing highlights and detail in the moon, which is particularly acute given the single frame. Portra 400 makes some sense given the extra speed. EKTAR would have been my initial instinct (for the superior color saturation, particularly with the red tones); but after thinking through it I may have also gone with the Portra 400, as the two extra stops is very helpful here. I am impressed at ho you managed to determine the starting and stopping point such that you kept it in the single frame. I know there are apps for this and that smart people can find out all this stuff in advance. It is just really cool. I am also interested in the aperture that you used. I am aware of astronotographers (or whatever they are called) using a wide open aperture to maximize shutter speed. Just wondering what your thought process was... Overall, if it looks as good on paper as it does on the screen, I think you've gotten yourself a real magnum opus! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share #7166 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Cows, fog, contrejour and sunny morning in the valley details visible , not possible with digital Courville Oct 2015 Kodak TX400 MP 50 Lux A Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry Edited October 11, 2015 by Doc Henry 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902613'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share #7167 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Philip, thanks for your message with details of your moon shot Courville valley in fog Oct 2015 quiz : where are the horses (2) ? Kodak Portra 160 M7-35 Lux A. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry Edited October 11, 2015 by Doc Henry 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902619'>More sharing options...
philipus Posted October 11, 2015 Share #7168 Posted October 11, 2015 Since we're on lunar topics, here's the "super moon" and the small tower of the Peace Palace in the early morning sun light. Flickr 1N 200/2.8L Velvia 100 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share #7169 Posted October 11, 2015 Cistercian monks 10 in number are living there. Discipline is rather strict, and the silence is to be observed. They work the products of their culture including lavender and sell these products to live. I intend to go on a retreat soon Prayer hall of the Abbey Senanque Abbey Oct 2015 Kodak TX400 MP-50 LA Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902650'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share #7170 Posted October 11, 2015 Abbey Senanque Vaucluse area Oct 2015 under rain , clouds, wind ...and umbrella Kodak Portra 160 M7-35 LA Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902658'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share #7171 Posted October 11, 2015 Taken from the top of the hill and under the rain Senanque abbey (oct 2015) Note lavender fields Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! KP160-M7-35LA Best Henry 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! KP160-M7-35LA Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902663'>More sharing options...
christoph_d Posted October 11, 2015 Share #7172 Posted October 11, 2015 Henry, We visited the place last year. Even on a touristy Summer day it was a place of serenity and quietitude - quite a contrast to Le Beaux de Provence which we had visited before. A retreat in Senanque sounds lovely, I am getting jealous Rgds Christoph 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share #7173 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Henry, We visited the place last year. Even on a touristy Summer day it was a place of serenity and quietitude - quite a contrast to Le Beaux de Provence which we had visited before. A retreat in Senanque sounds lovely, I am getting jealous Rgds Christoph Sometimes we need to question ourselves and a retreat in a monastery can only be beneficial. What impressed me is this simple life we know before the era of the race for money and profit, and "silence" is worth more than all these words sometimes irrelevant. or not followed ! Another picture for you in b&w as you like Indoor garden Senanque Abbey (oct 2015) you will notice that each pattern of the pillars of columns in back ground is different Kodak TX400 (dev home lab Ilfotech HC) Leica MP Summilux 50 Asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ... and thanks for your comment Christoph Regards Henry Edited October 11, 2015 by Doc Henry 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ... and thanks for your comment Christoph Regards Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902719'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share #7174 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) The dormitory of "new" monks : each window corresponds to one room. The walls were destroyed later by the war Kodak TX400-MP-50 LA Image29senanqueabkodtx400mplfht+++900cont+.jpg Best Henry Here finally the picture, sorry ! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Henry Edited October 11, 2015 by Doc Henry 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902729'>More sharing options...
Bobitybob Posted October 11, 2015 Share #7175 Posted October 11, 2015 Tractor Tracks... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! White Lady's Priory Leica R8, Summicron-R 1:2/50, Ilford XP2 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! White Lady's Priory Leica R8, Summicron-R 1:2/50, Ilford XP2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902764'>More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted October 11, 2015 Share #7176 Posted October 11, 2015 I've just ordered one of these from Tap and Dye! I expect they'll go down well in this thread now o need to go out and shoot more film or I'll feel like a fraud! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2902846'>More sharing options...
rpavich Posted October 11, 2015 Share #7177 Posted October 11, 2015 Ok...experiment.I wanted to see what would happen if I pushed the cheapest film I have with my almost-exhausted chems.I think it was pretty successful, though the colors are a bit muted and the grain is more prevalent than usual (but that was expected.The film is Fuji X-tra 400 shot @ 800.I developed them as if I pushed 2 stops (one for the ISO of 800 and one for the almost-exhausted chems)BTW: I've now developed 20 rolls in these chemicals. I use inert gas to top off the bottles when I close them up. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share #7178 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) I've just ordered one of these from Tap and Dye! I expect they'll go down well in this thread now o need to go out and shoot more film or I'll feel like a fraud! Screenshot_2015-10-11-17-25-46-01.jpeg Vivid and nice color .... and you are welcome Robert why fraud ? ... no , like all of us ,after a short digital period (now digital camera as back up) , back to film ! Thanks for sharing with us Best Henry Edited October 11, 2015 by Doc Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted October 11, 2015 Share #7179 Posted October 11, 2015 Vivid and nice color .... and you are welcome Robert why fraud ? ... no , like all of us ,after a short digital period (now digital camera as back up) , back to film ! Thanks for sharing with us Best Henry Best Henry Because I shoot no where near enough film! Next purchase has got to be a negative scanner or a house with a darkroom for printing! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share #7180 Posted October 11, 2015 Ok...experiment. I wanted to see what would happen if I pushed the cheapest film I have with my almost-exhausted chems. I think it was pretty successful, though the colors are a bit muted and the grain is more prevalent than usual (but that was expected. The film is Fuji X-tra 400 shot @ 800. I developed them as if I pushed 2 stops (one for the ISO of 800 and one for the almost-exhausted chems) BTW: I've now developed 20 rolls in these chemicals. I use inert gas to top off the bottles when I close them up. For me , nice green and red colors Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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