DigitalHeMan Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5361 Posted June 22, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) given that leica camera bodies are merely light boxes just like any other film camera, once you allow the posting of photos taken with non-Leica lenses, all "purity" is lost. This thread is really primarily about sharing and commenting on different types of film. I think that Andreas understands this. Maybe a separate thread should be opened for non Leica images then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 22, 2015 Posted June 22, 2015 Hi DigitalHeMan, Take a look here I like film...(open thread). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
A miller Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5362 Posted June 22, 2015 I'm totally flexible and am not a stickler either way. But when I see a film image taken with a Leica body but a non-Leica lens I really don't think of it as a Leica image. If a Canon lens is used I would think of the image as more of a Canon image than a Leica image... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5363 Posted June 22, 2015 I hadn't intended to cause disruption, merely to increase the kinds of film photos we can share as Leica-loving friends. I would hope the thread remains mostly Leica M or screw mount photos, but at least no one gets banned for posting the occasional medium format image, for example. Now it's true that I look at this thread primarily as a celebration of film. If I'm alone in that I'll shut up! Chris 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5364 Posted June 22, 2015 I hadn't intended to cause disruption, merely to increase the kinds of film photos we can share as Leica-loving friends. I would hope the thread remains mostly Leica M or screw mount photos, but at least no one gets banned for posting the occasional medium format image, for example. Now it's true that I look at this thread primarily as a celebration of film. If I'm alone in that I'll shut up! Chris Chris - I agree with you. I think that Andreas' instincts are correct here in that it is worth giving a try with the hope and expectation that non-"Leica" film photos continue to represent the bulk of the images shared with the tolerance for the sharing of MF images and "non-Leica 35mm images" (whatever that means). I actually think that the sharing of MF images would add a positive additional dimension to this thread in that we will be able to compare and contrast the two film formats. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5365 Posted June 22, 2015 I think posting non-Leica images has always been allowed for comparing with Leica lenses etc or making a point in a topic. I would welcome other formats here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5366 Posted June 22, 2015 Using the Soft filter was "interesting" it would perhaps work better for other conditions, portraits etc. Traditional midsummer celebrations last Friday, Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summicron-M 50/2 Fujifilm Superia 200 (B+W Soft-Pro filter) 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summicron-M 50/2 Fujifilm Superia 200 (B+W Soft-Pro filter) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2840251'>More sharing options...
philipus Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5367 Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I think this is a very positive development, thanks Chris. I fully understand the concern not to "dilute" the forum and stray too far off from the Leica connection for published images. The strong film tradition which Leica stands for is evident in several parts of this forum, but in particular in this thread. Those who shoot digital discuss the strengths and weaknesses of CCD and CMOS sensors but to us film users the characteristics of the (thankfully still many) different kinds of film are of even greater interest since the ability to switch film types is a, if not the, core feature of film-based cameras as compared to a digital cameras. Film stock varies a lot across formats. Think only of Tri-X in 135 vs 120. Two very different films. So knowing about films and how films behave is most important to a film photographer and I, for one, very much look forward to learning about this from the photos in this thread. The thread's respect for the generosity extended by Andreas and the forum management is up to us all to ensure. Did Andreas say anything about the hosting vs linking issue? I don't mind either way but fully understand the desire to reduce burden on the forum. Personally I use (and can highly recommend) postimg.org which is recognised by the forum software. Br Philip Edited June 22, 2015 by philipus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5368 Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Andreas said there is no problem with hosting on this site if anyone prefers to attach an image rather than link it from elsewhere. His full reply was: Hi Chris, Thanks for the question and: No problem with that!We can make it an „unofficial“ rule that this thread is open to other film cameras too.I have only two reservations:1. I don't want to make it an official rule - this would lead to discussions if this would be allowed in other places too!2. If single members abuse this agreement to flood the forum with their non-Leica images - as a kind Image Dump.BTW - hosting costs are no issue: We have enough hard disk space and bandwidth volume to serve some more images too.My main issue is to keep the Leica Forum to its core - Leica photography.RegardsAndreas So it seems we are gradually working our way towards a solution, just as this beaver did: Ambitious beaver! by chrism229, on Flickr Pentax 645N, 45mm/f2.8, Fuji Pro400H, Unicolor presskit, X1 scan (You may now laugh, but I can't show you - in this thread - the solution finally achieved by the beaver as it is a photo taken with an M9!) Chris Edited June 22, 2015 by chrism 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuthbert Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5369 Posted June 22, 2015 Andreas said there is no problem with hosting on this site if anyone prefers to attach an image rather than link it from elsewhere. His full reply was: So it seems we are gradually working our way towards a solution, just as this beaver did: Ambitious beaver! by chrism229, on Flickr Pentax 645N, 45mm/f2.8, Fuji Pro400H, Unicolor presskit, X1 scan (You may now laugh, but I can't show you - in this thread - the solution finally achieved by the beaver as it is a photo taken with an M9!) Chris I see a Pentax image! You opened the cataracts of the Nile! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5370 Posted June 22, 2015 Andreas said there is no problem with hosting on this site if anyone prefers to attach an image rather than link it from elsewhere. His full reply was: So it seems we are gradually working our way towards a solution, just as this beaver did: Ambitious beaver! by chrism229, on Flickr Pentax 645N, 45mm/f2.8, Fuji Pro400H, Unicolor presskit, X1 scan (You may now laugh, but I can't show you - in this thread - the solution finally achieved by the beaver as it is a photo taken with an M9!) Chris Haven't you just made this official by posting it on the forum, thus doing exactly what Andreas asked you not to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5371 Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Haven't you just made this official by posting it on the forum, thus doing exactly what Andreas asked you not to do? are we then supposed to lie when asked what gear we used? (I know that Chris wasn't silent on his gear but if he was he at some point would have been asked....) Edited June 22, 2015 by A miller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5372 Posted June 22, 2015 are then supposed to lie when asked what gear we used? (I know that Chris wasn't silent on his gear but if he was he at some point would have been asked....) Maybe you're supposed to just stick to posting Leica? Although Andreas contradicts himself a bit as well. I feel pretty strongly about keeping this thread dedicated to Leica only, but I can solve that easily by not visiting it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuthbert Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5373 Posted June 22, 2015 Haven't you just made this official by posting it on the forum, thus doing exactly what Andreas asked you not to do? Unfortunately there isn't a button not to "thank", because I'd like not to thank you for this post: the pic is brilliant and it's not polluting the Sancta Sanctorum of the Leica Forum with subversive images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5374 Posted June 22, 2015 Unfortunately there isn't a button not to "thank", because I'd like not to thank you for this post: the pic is brilliant and it's not polluting the Sancta Sanctorum of the Leica Forum with subversive images. There's nothing wrong with the image, that's not the point. I was referring to the letter where Chris was asked not to make it official, but by posting the letter did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5375 Posted June 22, 2015 There's nothing wrong with the image, that's not the point. I was referring to the letter where Chris was asked not to make it official, but by posting the letter did. Simon - I respect your viewpoint. I actually didn't know that you even visited this thread as I haven't seen you post or "thank" very much. You always have good insights on a vast number of topics and issues and you are a valuable member of the forum. Boycotting just b/c a small minority of images will be taken with both a non-Leica body AND lens is not all that principled to me - but it is totally your choice and I respect it. All the best, Adam 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5376 Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Haven't you just made this official by posting it on the forum, thus doing exactly what Andreas asked you not to do? You have lost me. Andreas didn't ask me not to do anything. He gave permission for film images from other cameras and in other formats to be posted here, in this thread. He said he didn't want to write an official rule, not because he was willing to tolerate other kinds of images sub rosa, but because that might then be extrapolated by some to other subforums here. If your understanding of his reply that I quoted above was that we might now be allowed to post other film images but not say where they came from or how they were taken, I think you were mistaken. I can ask him to clarify that if you wish? But again, I have to ask this - is the purity of the thread not being contaminated by other images of such importance to most who post here that I ought to keep quiet? There are many places on the web to share MF, LF and other 35mm film images and there is no actual need for them to be shown here. It's just nice for us film lovers to be able to see what else we do apart from using Leicas (oh, yes - some of us push shutter buttons made outside Wetzlar and Solms!) Chris Edited June 22, 2015 by chrism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobitybob Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5377 Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Have I missed something, surely it is already possible to post film images from other camera/lenses under the current forum rules. For instance if you have a Canon EOS film camera (I have an EOS 5) and use an adapter to use R lenses then you meet the curent forum rules, same would apply to Nikon etc. For instance there is a dedicated forum for the Sony A7 using Leica glass. Not much help for those that want to post medium format images, but then as I don't believe Leica has commercially produced such a camera then perhaps they are not appropriate. If you can adapt it to fit the current rules then it can be posted. Edited June 22, 2015 by Bobitybob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5378 Posted June 22, 2015 Well I think Andreas has given his permission for this specific thread given the over-arching topic (film), much like must have been done in 2013 (or through acquiescence) for the German 6x6 thread I mentioned earlier. There are lots of MF images there, with info re equipment and film used. Here's a brief intermission 33 | TTL 50/1.4 Asph Fuji Pro 160S Future's so bright | TTL 50/1.4 Asph Fuji Superia 400 Passing Amsterdam tram | TTL 50/1.4 Asph Fuji Pro 160S Br Philip 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted June 22, 2015 Share #5379 Posted June 22, 2015 Bob, Please note the instruction at the top of the forum: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If a Leica body or a Leica lens is involved you get in without a problem. It seemed to me that this thread is about our love of film, and it might be useful to allow film images of all sorts. I use an MP and an M7, but I don't rely on them alone for my film gratification. Many of my recent experiments with monobath development are with an F6. I also use several medium format cameras and three large format cameras. I assume others are also using a variety of cameras and or formats. Shall we have to search around the web to find examples or shall we agree to have them here? I'm not the only one to have asked for it, but I don't mind either way, and if most aren't interested I will drop it. Anyway, here's a Leica MP image on HP5+ and developed in Diafine to keep up the tone! Thoughtful by chrism229, on Flickr C. 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If a Leica body or a Leica lens is involved you get in without a problem. It seemed to me that this thread is about our love of film, and it might be useful to allow film images of all sorts. I use an MP and an M7, but I don't rely on them alone for my film gratification. Many of my recent experiments with monobath development are with an F6. I also use several medium format cameras and three large format cameras. I assume others are also using a variety of cameras and or formats. Shall we have to search around the web to find examples or shall we agree to have them here? I'm not the only one to have asked for it, but I don't mind either way, and if most aren't interested I will drop it. Anyway, here's a Leica MP image on HP5+ and developed in Diafine to keep up the tone! Thoughtful by chrism229, on Flickr C. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2840486'>More sharing options...
A miller Posted June 23, 2015 Share #5380 Posted June 23, 2015 NYC M7, 28mm elmarit pre-asph, portra 400 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2840561'>More sharing options...
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