I like film...(open thread)

[christoph_d]

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Adam, this pic I like, even though it is a Caucasian chick (please excuse the Oz slang!) and therefore brighter figure.

Have you considered using 2nd curtain synch on your flash? I think it would change the dynamics, and therefore the look of the image.

Just a techy thought.

Adam,

 

I agree with Erl for the simple fact that the comet like shape of the shooting snow seems to fly in the wrong direction. In your picture above, for example, the direction of flight seems to be from left to right, while your protagonist obviously is sheltering from nature comong from the right! But probably only few observers notice this.

Having said all that, the long shutter times add a good sense of dynamism, the pictures do remain fantastic, no saturation point is reached yet, so please keep them coming.

 

Christoph

Edited March 8, 2017 by christoph_d

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[stray cat]

Back to the war zone....

M7, 28mm elmarit pre-asph, Portra 400

Adam, these blizzard shots, incredible as it may seem due to the exceptionally high standard from the start, are just getting betterer and betterer. As Gary points out, the snowflakes have a sinister, missile-like look to them here. A wonderful series. We'll all be sorry when your NYC winter ends!

 

If I may, I disagree about using the 2nd curtain sync. As Erl correctly points out, the dynamics of these pictures would change - why would you necessarily want to do that when the dynamics are, well, so dynamic - and, in the end, the effect always looks like a bit of a gimmick to me.

Edited March 8, 2017 by stray cat

[Ratzfatz]

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M7, 28mm elmarit pre-asph, Portra 400

 

It's great Adam, fantastic ... I would say that htis photo is one of the best .. from my point of view.

 

Regarding to your comment to Philipus. You have absolutely right, but here you can't go closer. I don't know how are the people in Denmark, but I would think there is no a big difference. This kind of street photography as you do, and you do it very well, or like Bruce Gilden is here impossible, hahaha the people would kill you. I don't have the chuzpe and maybe that's the reason for being so fascinated of this street photography.

 

Best

Gregor

[finarphin]

This is an Ok picture, but it's not soft, it's out of focus.  This lens/camera combination has been a serious disappointment to me, especially after having had the camera extensively restored.  M3 with 50mm Summicron collapsible.  I'm sure I focused it correctly using the rangefinder double images (the point I focused on was the East Buttress of El Capitan, on the left edge of the frame).  The lens is very sharp on the Sony, and also on a Leica IIIf and a Canon P.  So I believe it must be the ltm to M adapter.  I have another one which I'm going to switch over to, to see if it makes any difference.

 

Kodak Ektar 100, color print film; scan of negative.  Bridalveil Falls, Yosemite.  There are a lot of dead trees owing to the drought going on for three years.

 

 

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Best of the set, Adam.  Nice meteor shower!

[philipus]

Thanks Adam, I really appreciate your having taken the time to comment.

 

These were from my two test rolls with the flash so I tried a few different things to see how the images would look, how far the flash would reach etc.

 

I can see why it looks as if these photos were shot from the hip, but I actually didn't. Rather I deliberately angled the camera to get a diagonal framing and on the last one I knelt down and shot up trying to get some dynamic going between the man and the manequins. 

 

I agree somewhat that I should get closer, esp as this was with a 35mm which I consider a bit of a meh focal length. There's so much hype about 35mm in the context of Leica M and street photography, but in most cases unless one is close the picture just becomes a distracting mess of details, as also these pictures show (though they're 'saved' somewhat by the darker surroundings).

 

I will try close quarter shooting too though. I don't much care for what people think when I shoot in the street and interestingly the vast majority of subjects don't even seem to notice the flash let alone care. 

 

That said, I'm not sure though that for night flash photography to have 'public appeal' it needs to be 'in your face', or is that the case, meaning any other type would lack public appeal? Perhaps. I'll have to experiment more and see what I want to make of this. I have a few ideas to try out.

 

About 2nd curtain sync, Leica says that (and HSS) works with the M7 with some dedicated flash. I'm not sure which one is on the picture but it seems large:

 

The M7 and its dedicated flash unit allows second-curtain flash synchronization. The advantage: a more natural look of moving subjects. In addition to the standard synchronization speed of 1/50 sec, the M7 also synchronizes at a speed of up to 1/1000 sec when used in combination with certain Metz flash units.

 

https://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M7/Details

 

2nd curtain sync won't work with the M6TTL because it lacks the electronics to tell the flash when to fire on the second shutter. And faster than 1/50 won't work on the TTL either because it won't actually fire any flash at faster speeds than that.

 

Hi Philip - I give you high marks for your efforts!  A+ across the board!  It is not so easy to muster the courage (or, as we say, chutzpah) to point a flash at strangers, particularly in the night.  I hope that you find this kind of shooting as stimulating as I do.  

 

I am not sure what you are after with these, but if you would like some constructive comments regarding the potential to make this type of shooting have broader public appeal, read on.  If this is not what you are after and/or you do not wish to receive any comments, do not read any further past this point.

 

It seems, though, that many if not all of these photos were shot from the hip.  This may be necessary as a way to get your feet wet, which is perfectly fine and there is definitely a learning/comfort zone curve involved.  But I would encourage you to try to frame your shots with your eye and take full control over exactly what you want to get in your frame. 

 

I also think that to achieve the look that you want, you should try to get closer to your subjects.  This is particularly important at night since the background will invariably be blacked out, creating lots of dead space.  Getting much closer will capture those intimate expressions and facial details that are so interesting on a broad level.  

 

Would love to see more of this genre from you!

 

Terrific Gary, very enjoyable indeed.

 

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[philipus]

I would have thought the Danes would react quite calmly. Well, unless they display the allegedly violent criminal behaviour of the local Swedish and immigrant population across the water in Malmö (which is not true, btw).

 

It's great Adam, fantastic ... I would say that htis photo is one of the best .. from my point of view.

 

Regarding to your comment to Philipus. You have absolutely right, but here you can't go closer. I don't know how are the people in Denmark, but I would think there is no a big difference. This kind of street photography as you do, and you do it very well, or like Bruce Gilden is here impossible, hahaha the people would kill you. I don't have the chuzpe and maybe that's the reason for being so fascinated of this street photography.

 

Best

Gregor

[Ratzfatz]

I would have thought the Danes would react quite calmly. Well, unless they display the allegedly violent criminal behaviour of the local Swedish and immigrant population across the water in Malmö (which is not true, btw).

 

Ahh ... I am sorry it was Malmö and not Copenhagen. sorry for the confusion ....

[philipus]

An easy mistake to make, it used to be Swedish (ducking). But one would have to believe the various 'alternative facts' circulating to be concerned, which are untrue as this journalist discovered.

 

https://www.thelocal.se/20170226/chicago-much-worse-than-malm-american-journalist

 

Anyway back to photos

 

Ahh ... I am sorry it was Malmö and not Copenhagen. sorry for the confusion ....

[A miller]

Christoph, Phil, Gregor and Steve - Thanks a lot.  I really appreciate your close look and feedback.  

Adam,

I agree with Erl for the simple fact that the comet like shape of the shooting snow seems to fly in the wrong direction. In your picture above, for example, the direction of flight seems to be from left to right, while your protagonist obviously is sheltering from nature comong from the right! But probably only few observers notice this.
Having said all that, the long shutter times add a good sense of dynamism, the pictures do remain fantastic, no saturation point is reached yet, so please keep them coming.

Christoph

 

 

Adam, these blizzard shots, incredible as it may seem due to the exceptionally high standard from the start, are just getting betterer and betterer. As Gary points out, the snowflakes have a sinister, missile-like look to them here. A wonderful series. We'll all be sorry when your NYC winter ends!

If I may, I disagree about using the 2nd curtain sync. As Erl correctly points out, the dynamics of these pictures would change - why would you necessarily want to do that when the dynamics are, well, so dynamic - and, in the end, the effect always looks like a bit of a gimmick to me.

 

 

It's great Adam, fantastic ... I would say that htis photo is one of the best .. from my point of view.

 

Regarding to your comment to Philipus. You have absolutely right, but here you can't go closer. I don't know how are the people in Denmark, but I would think there is no a big difference. This kind of street photography as you do, and you do it very well, or like Bruce Gilden is here impossible, hahaha the people would kill you. I don't have the chuzpe and maybe that's the reason for being so fascinated of this street photography.

 

Best

Gregor

 

 

Best of the set, Adam.  Nice meteor shower!

[A miller]

Thanks Adam, I really appreciate your having taken the time to comment.

 

These were from my two test rolls with the flash so I tried a few different things to see how the images would look, how far the flash would reach etc.

 

I can see why it looks as if these photos were shot from the hip, but I actually didn't. Rather I deliberately angled the camera to get a diagonal framing and on the last one I knelt down and shot up trying to get some dynamic going between the man and the manequins. 

 

I agree somewhat that I should get closer, esp as this was with a 35mm which I consider a bit of a meh focal length. There's so much hype about 35mm in the context of Leica M and street photography, but in most cases unless one is close the picture just becomes a distracting mess of details, as also these pictures show (though they're 'saved' somewhat by the darker surroundings).

 

I will try close quarter shooting too though. I don't much care for what people think when I shoot in the street and interestingly the vast majority of subjects don't even seem to notice the flash let alone care. 

 

That said, I'm not sure though that for night flash photography to have 'public appeal' it needs to be 'in your face', or is that the case, meaning any other type would lack public appeal? Perhaps. I'll have to experiment more and see what I want to make of this. I have a few ideas to try out.

 

About 2nd curtain sync, Leica says that (and HSS) works with the M7 with some dedicated flash. I'm not sure which one is on the picture but it seems large:

 

The M7 and its dedicated flash unit allows second-curtain flash synchronization. The advantage: a more natural look of moving subjects. In addition to the standard synchronization speed of 1/50 sec, the M7 also synchronizes at a speed of up to 1/1000 sec when used in combination with certain Metz flash units.

 

https://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M7/Details

 

2nd curtain sync won't work with the M6TTL because it lacks the electronics to tell the flash when to fire on the second shutter. And faster than 1/50 won't work on the TTL either because it won't actually fire any flash at faster speeds than that.

 

 

Terrific Gary, very enjoyable indeed.

Hi Philip - Thanks for your response.  I don't want to make it seem that there is a finite way of shooting strangers with flash.  So please forgive me if this is how it came across and feel free to ignore me.  You have your own thing going and your own views regarding what you are after.  Totally respect and support your interest and skills in this area.   I guess my only hang up is that after your first few posts I was not getting a sense of your vision of what type of look you are trying to achieve.  I am excited to just sit back and let you do your thing and enjoy the results.  I am always happy to provide feedback should you specifically request it.  All the best, adam

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[Michael Geschlecht]

Hallo Brabu,

 

Nett photos, beiden.

 

Grusse,

 

Michael

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[Brabu]

Hi Michael,

 

thank you....regards from Berlin

 

Matthias

[chrism]

I was concerned that the meter in my Rolleiflex wasn't right, so I used up a film with duplicate exposures, one using the internal meter and one using an external spotmeter. It turns out I was right,and the internal meter underexposes by 1-2 stops, but the funny thing is that the underexposed negatives allow me to pull out more detail in scans. This might be a quirk of the XP2 I was using. Anyway, one of the 'underexposed' negatives:

 

test film by chrism229, on Flickr

 

C.

[Ratzfatz]

Kodak 4 ...

 

After the scanning of the last MF-rolls, I realized the "water marks" on the scans ..

 

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Another SWC shot.

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Kodak 4 ...

 

After the scanning of the last MF-rolls, I realized the "water marks" on the scans ..

 

GER_Chiemsee_R3_Porta400_07_listo.jpg

 

Hasselblad 500cm, Kodak Porta 400 -> , Epson V700

I hope you don't mind me asking, but how did that happen? I have shot and developed many 6x6 rolls of slide film in times past, but never seen that before.

 

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Christopher

 

 

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