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4 hours ago, philipus said:

 

Wow Ian, this throws me head first into that beautiful Widerberg movie Elvira Madigan.

 

 

Thank you for bringing about a wonderful memory, Philip. I think I was about 14 when I first saw it, and it filled my head for years with images of gorgeous Swedish women with long flowing blonde hair dreamily drifting through sunlit fields. Beautiful stuff (and I still have yet to fulfill the promise I made to my 14-y-o self: must get to Sweden some day...).

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Gullaskrufs Glasbruk Leica M2 Adox CMS20 II

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vor 9 Stunden schrieb philipus:

Lovely framing here Thomas. Did you add a slight toning too? It's very effective in conveying a certain atmosphere, almost Hitchockian somehow.


Thank you Philip for your comment. There is no toning. There were small corrections of the scan in darktable regarding exposure time. These corrections can be done also in the darkroom with enlarger and paper.

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11 hours ago, philipus said:

This is excellent Paul. As much as I agree that this photo stands on its own feet in monochrome, now that you've told us it used to be in colour I'm curious. Not that you have to show it but it's an interesting artistic approach to show an artist's studio in black and white. Come to think of it, are there any painters who paint (not charcoal sketch) in monochrome?

Thank you for your comments! For me, colour is one of the main elements in composition. In monochrome 'all' (hah!) you have to worry about is shapes, directions and tonal patterns. In many scenes, colour adds an element which is often totally unrelated to the shapes, highlights and shadows. See the two images commented on in this thread, where a single colour element (the advert on the left) changes the whole balance of the image in an unhelpful way. I would rather shoot in colour, but if my limited skill means that I can't make the colour work as a part of the composition, then I may well leave it out, as here. I am in the early stages of learning how to scan negatives (4x5) and invert them digitally. In this case I have not yet been able to stop the yellows in the woodwork detracting from the overall composition - in this latest version I have toned them down but only at the expense of a rather chilly blue feel. Maybe I just need to be more persistent! FWIW, the artist (a he) likes this colour image very much.

 

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IIIf, Summicron 5cm 1:2 collapsible, Ilford SFX 200, Rodinal 1:50 20°C 10'.

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Two peaks.

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On 8/23/2021 at 2:37 PM, ianman said:

The orchard.

MP, Thambar LTM, Ilford Pan400, Adonal 1+25

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Should convince anyone that the Thambar (new or original) is a lens capable of producing artistic images!

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Easy, it's the only one I use these days :D Joking aside, there's something about how HC110 treats the grain. and that's what made me think of it.

20 hours ago, Steve Ricoh said:

Spot on Philip, how could you tell?

Ah darn. I thought I had found an unexplored artistic niche.

18 hours ago, Ernest said:

Gerhard Richter, Jasper Johns, Ad Reinhart, Vija Celmins, Cy Twombly, Chuck Close, Jackson Pollock, Robert Rauschenberg, Mark Rothko, Tacita Dean, Frank Stella, Barnett Newman, Malevich, Mark Tansey. . . .

This is lovely, it looks almost impressionist. Who needs focus anyway if this is what its absence does.

17 hours ago, mikemgb said:

As above. 

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Well when you go let me know and I'll suggest some good spots for blonde women spotting :D Actually most of those places are in Finland. They tend to be fairer overall.

When I was that age I had a cassette tape of Mozart's piano concerto no. 21 (and 17). It's the classic Deutche Grammophon recording and the second movement is what made me fall totally in love with classical piano music. I had it in my black Walkman on repeat when my parents to my brother and me on a 4-week road trip around Europe, our first trip abroad. We did a Coca Cola tasting to check if it tasted the same in all countries.

17 hours ago, stray cat said:

Thank you for bringing about a wonderful memory, Philip. I think I was about 14 when I first saw it, and it filled my head for years with images of gorgeous Swedish women with long flowing blonde hair dreamily drifting through sunlit fields. Beautiful stuff (and I still have yet to fulfill the promise I made to my 14-y-o self: must get to Sweden some day...).

Very nice tonality. It's like there's no grain. And that's a funny name too. It's a combination of "cute" and "screw" and so, um, well it could be said to mean erm...

13 hours ago, Rennrocky said:

Gullaskrufs Glasbruk Leica M2 Adox CMS20 II

That makes me like it even more :)

12 hours ago, thschm said:


Thank you Philip for your comment. There is no toning. There were small corrections of the scan in darktable regarding exposure time. These corrections can be done also in the darkroom with enlarger and paper.

That is a very interesting way to see it Paul. I've never thought of colour as an element that is unrelated to the shapes, highlights or shadows. To me it's always just been a natural aspect of colour photography. The toning down you mention makes me think of dodging and burning, which is sometimes an effective way to guide a viewer's eyes around a black and white image. I think you've used it to good effect here and the fact that the blue objects/areas stand out a bit more doesn't bother me. In fact I'm also wondering if you couldn't have gone the opposite way too. It's a painter's studio, and (I presume) one who works in colour. So a viewer would probably expect an image of the artist's studio to be quite colourful, that colour would play a main part in the image. Then again, to show that space in monochrome leaves more room for the viewer's imagination to fill in the gaps and imagine what the space must look like.

10 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Thank you for your comments! For me, colour is one of the main elements in composition. In monochrome 'all' (hah!) you have to worry about is shapes, directions and tonal patterns. In many scenes, colour adds an element which is often totally unrelated to the shapes, highlights and shadows. See the two images commented on in this thread, where a single colour element (the advert on the left) changes the whole balance of the image in an unhelpful way. I would rather shoot in colour, but if my limited skill means that I can't make the colour work as a part of the composition, then I may well leave it out, as here. I am in the early stages of learning how to scan negatives (4x5) and invert them digitally. In this case I have not yet been able to stop the yellows in the woodwork detracting from the overall composition - in this latest version I have toned them down but only at the expense of a rather chilly blue feel. Maybe I just need to be more persistent! FWIW, the artist (a he) likes this colour image very much.

 

And big ones too. I like how the perspective first makes them look only like large mounds and only when one sees the trees and the roads does their actual size become clear.

8 hours ago, atournas said:

Two peaks.

 

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Let's return to the lobby again and put ourselves where we were in the first image, but then turn our heads 90 degrees right. This is what you'd see then. A television set, a few armchair, a plant and watercolour art by a group of school children who visited earlier. But there's also an inconspicuous door. And strangely enough it's got an intercom box and a card reader. The door goes...

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...to this, the main cellblock located underneath the rotunda. The accused would not be brought here through the lobby, of course, but would be taken under guard through hidden corridors and gangways in the walls. There was a whole network of such passages, which was off limits to anyone not working in Security. These cells were basically a waiting area. The accused were brought here before the court hearings and during breaks, and waited here until they could be brought to a garage where the Dutch transport police would pick them up and drive them to the United Nations Detention Unit, in a wing in a prison in The Hague, which is where they stayed overnight.


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If you put yourself in the middle of this space you'd see this if you looked left:


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And this if you looked right. Confusing, isn't it? It all looks the same. I like the panopticon touch to this area.


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1 hour ago, philipus said:

That is a very interesting way to see it Paul. I've never thought of colour as an element that is unrelated to the shapes, highlights or shadows. To me it's always just been a natural aspect of colour photography.

Well, yes, colour IS related to shapes, highlights and shadows, but the colour itself (its tint, saturation, brightness) can draw the eye in a direction that the shapes etc do not, so (IMO) colour has to be considered as a compositional element in its own right. The other thread I linked to illustrated that well (again IMO).

I suppose I am rarely using photography to just make a record of a scene (where colour is, as you say, a natural aspect of colour photography). Even in portraits, I want the colour of the clothes and background to support the depiction of a person, and not just be accidental features. It's harder with portraits, especially non-studio: the brightly coloured book in the background changes how the eye looks at it compared to a mono portrait (for better or worse). I would like to make an image that works well as a composition, including colour. Needless to say, I don't often succeed.

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Fishing by the Channel on a fine English Summer day.

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Leica M2 with TTArtisan 1.4/35 ASPH (think of it as the poor person's Summilux) on Fuji Superia 400, somewhat underexposed giving soft grain.

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Same camera, lens, film combination.  16th Castle walls with Ivy.

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OM4 with 35/2 Cine500T in C-41

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Hasselblad 500CM, Planar 2,8/80, f5,6 1/125s, developed in Adonal 1+25, scanned with epson V800

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