Guest JMF Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46021 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) These statements simply are not true. A tiff file — because of its structure: you can read up on it — is at least 3-4 times larger than a DNG file, although they both contain the same amount of information. So, an M10 DNG is about 30MB and an exported TIFF from the DNG is about 140MB — and both contain the same amount of information. It's the structure of the TIFF files that makes scan files so much larger than DNGs. Similarly, an M9 DNG is about 18MB and the exported TIFF is about 108MB. BTW, it's been a long time since most people on this forum shot 10MB DNG files. Since I got the M10, for the last nine months I’ve been shooting digital but, now, in Chiang Mai where there is an excellent analog photo lab, I hesitate each time I go out whether to take my M10 or the old M3. My general thinking though is to shoot color digitally and to shoot film occasionally for B&W. While I like the “roughness” of the above image from Paris shot nine months ago on Portra 400, my feeling is I could probably do something similar with the M10, considering that the DR Summicron-50 would flare either way in this strong back-light at that angle. Paris _________________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Instagram: @mitchalland Nice shot ! Edited January 18, 2018 by JMF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AntonioF Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46022 Posted January 18, 2018 Don't forget that film goes through multiple x-rays already before it reaches you. I order my film online and it gets shipped from the US to Thailand. Who knows how many times it goes through these evil machines on its way Yeah, I've always wondered shipping and transportation ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46023 Posted January 18, 2018 Provia 100 SWC Casa Blanca, La Habana by JM__, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46024 Posted January 18, 2018 Sahart, Northwestern Sahara, Morocco by _JM_, on Flickr Agfa RSX 50 - Horizon 202 Superb! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46025 Posted January 18, 2018 Superb! Thanks Edward ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioF Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46026 Posted January 18, 2018 Many centennial olive trees here in southern Puglia (Italy). This one might look like a dead skeleton, but it is well alive. There's an infection now arrived probably from central America spreading around and killing olive trees. Regardless of all the political/scientific discussions and fights, nobody knows the cure. I guess one day we will stop producing extra virgin olive oil. Shot on Mamiya 645, Sekor-C 80/2.8, Ilford FP4@200, HC-110 dil B back side 20180107-img914 by antoniofedele, on Flickr front side 20180107-img911 by antoniofedele, on Flickr 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46027 Posted January 18, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Many centennial olive trees here in southern Puglia (Italy). This one might look like a dead skeleton, but it is well alive. There's an infection now arrived probably from central America spreading around and killing olive trees. Regardless of all the political/scientific discussions and fights, nobody knows the cure. I guess one day we will stop producing extra virgin olive oil. Shot on Mamiya 645, Sekor-C 80/2.8, Ilford FP4@200, HC-110 dil B back side 20180107-img914 by antoniofedele, on Flickr front side 20180107-img911 by antoniofedele, on Flickr So sad to read the news . Nice photos though ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46028 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Bike rest area by JM__, on Flickr Rollei RPX 25 - Ricoh GR21 Edited January 18, 2018 by JMF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post farnz Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share #46029 Posted January 18, 2018 . M3 and 50/2 Rigid Summicron with Rollei Retro 80S Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 20 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3443148'>More sharing options...
philipus Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46030 Posted January 18, 2018 This is great, Pete. Very creative thinking with the vertical lines on the steps. . M3 and 50/2 Rigid Summicron with Rollei Retro 80S Escalator London Bridge.jpg Really terrific shot Jean-Marc. Sahart, Northwestern Sahara, Morocco by _JM_, on Flickr Agfa RSX 50 - Horizon 202 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stray cat Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46031 Posted January 18, 2018 .... perhaps you are a victim of one rather zealous Australian customs officer Phil Best Henry Henry, the zealous customs officer was in Los Angeles. My point being, it is probably best to avoid anything that may cause customs officers to become suspicious or curious about what you're carrying - not least because they should be alert to anything else that may be passing by while they are concerned with you. Luckily (!) on that occasion I had a 5-hour layover in LA so it didn't cost me my connecting flight. Reposting, oops ! Buziós by JM__, on Flickr Jean-Marc, your recent Acros work is outstanding! The drama in this picture and some of the others is palpable. Not to mention your wonderful desert pano. Chapeau! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted January 18, 2018 Share #46032 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Henry, the zealous customs officer was in Los Angeles. My point being, it is probably best to avoid anything that may cause customs officers to become suspicious or curious about what you're carrying - not least because they should be alert to anything else that may be passing by while they are concerned with you. Luckily (!) on that occasion I had a 5-hour layover in LA so it didn't cost me my connecting flight. Jean-Marc, your recent Acros work is outstanding! The drama in this picture and some of the others is palpable. Not to mention your wonderful desert pano. Chapeau! Thanks so much, being able to shoot BW film out at sea on a kayak is simply exhilarating and I am happy to share these moments here ! Buziós by JM__, on Flickr And these truly inspiring locations do help ! Sahart, Northwestern Sahara, Morocco by _JM_, on Flickr Cheers, Jean-Marc. Edited January 18, 2018 by JMF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted January 19, 2018 Share #46033 Posted January 19, 2018 What a pointless dialogue. These statements simply are not true. A tiff file — because of its structure: you can read up on it — is at least 3-4 times larger than a DNG file, although they both contain the same amount of information. So, an M10 DNG is about 30MB and an exported TIFF from the DNG is about 140MB — and both contain the same amount of information. It's the structure of the TIFF files that makes scan files so much larger than DNGs. Similarly, an M9 DNG is about 18MB and the exported TIFF is about 108MB. BTW, it's been a long time since most people on this forum shot 10MB DNG files. Since I got the M10, for the last nine months I’ve been shooting digital but, now, in Chiang Mai where there is an excellent analog photo lab, I hesitate each time I go out whether to take my M10 or the old M3. My general thinking though is to shoot color digitally and to shoot film occasionally for B&W. While I like the “roughness” of the above image from Paris shot nine months ago on Portra 400, my feeling is I could probably do something similar with the M10, considering that the DR Summicron-50 would flare either way in this strong back-light at that angle. Paris _________________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Instagram: @mitchalland Love it! Sahart, Northwestern Sahara, Morocco by _JM_, on Flickr Agfa RSX 50 - Horizon 202 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A miller Posted January 19, 2018 Popular Post Share #46034 Posted January 19, 2018 Back to the treacherous NYC blizzard, which was shocking to many!! Portra 400 M7, 28 elmarit pre-asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 21 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3443345'>More sharing options...
Guest Nowhereman Posted January 19, 2018 Share #46035 Posted January 19, 2018 What a pointless dialogue. Love it! Adam - In your wisdom, would you like to elucidate why pointless? Actually, though, you might consider what a dialogue is. But, substantively, in a post on my thread on digitalizing slides with a camera, you stated that a 30MB DNG file couldn't have the quality of the 140 MB TIFF file from your Coolscan 9000. That's worse than pointless, considering it's wrong. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Instagram: @mitchalland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted January 19, 2018 Share #46036 Posted January 19, 2018 Back to the treacherous NYC blizzard, which was shocking to many!! Portra 400 M7, 28 elmarit pre-asph NYC Snow Blizzard.jpg Nice. Sort of a Betty Boop............Taking her dry cleaning home? Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted January 19, 2018 Share #46037 Posted January 19, 2018 you Adam - In your wisdom, would you like to elucidate why pointless? Actually, though, you might consider what a dialogue is. But, substantively, in a post on my thread on digitalizing slides with a camera, you stated that a 30MB DNG file couldn't have the quality of the 140 MB TIFF file from your Coolscan 9000. That's worse than pointless, considering it's wrong. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Instagram: @mitchalland You say it is wrong, but that doesn't mean it is right. And I stand by my belief based on shooting, editing and printing plenty of both raw digital files and also high quality film scans. But I think it is pointless b/c even if you are right: 1. the file sizes are effectively the same, which fares very well for a film scan 2. plus, the film scan will have the sublime aesthetics of film, which digital files woefully lacks, 3. plus once you get into the medium and large format world film starts to pull away big-time by any standard and so you lose there, as well. Above all, film is film and a good film scan can be digitally dodged and burned plenty sufficiently and can be printed plenty big. So it comes down to whether you like film or digital. This is a film photo sharing thread. You are invited to share film scans. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted January 19, 2018 Share #46038 Posted January 19, 2018 good imagination you have Nice. Sort of a Betty Boop............Taking her dry cleaning home? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted January 19, 2018 Share #46039 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) good imagination you have I mean, I can not know for sure, but, surely, Betty was/is a New Yorker. Edited January 19, 2018 by Wayne 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted January 19, 2018 Share #46040 Posted January 19, 2018 I realize Lighroom is superior software, and do have a copy, but I enjoy working with my photos in the Photos application on my Macbook. Photos simplicity seems well suited to my relative ignorance pertaining to PP. Maybe I will delve into LR when I become more familiar with simple adjustments available in Photos. I am curious as to order of operations most use when adjusting a negative scan. When I DO play around with PP, I generally limit my adjustments to Neutrals, Tone, Luminance, and Exposure. What is the best order to use as adjustments are made? Does it make any difference? Sorry for the, possibly, dumb question, but I am clueless when it comes to these matters. I do mess around with Definition slider, and see a difference, but do not really understand exactly what is going on there. Best, Wayne 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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