I like film...(open thread)

[stray cat]

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Love this one, Jean Marc. It reminds me of a famous photograph, which I can't unfortunately put my finger on right now. You might consider whether it is completely level. Could be the laptop tilted on my lap!

 

Really lovely, Phil. I also like the rendering of this; very unique palette.

 

Ha, ha, Phil. Just as your post came through I had just arrived a the Dead Sea for my third morning in a row (it was about 5am). But as I said before, we are only as strong as our weakest link. And today, my weakest link was THAT I LEFT MNY FILM BACK HOME IN JERUSALEM!!! :angry: All of that 90 minute driving in the middle of the night and I arrived without any ammo except for a half roll of Ektar. I AM SUCH AN IDIOT!! I had had 6 shots on it. And the miracle of Hanukkah (in which a tiny amount of oil lasted for 8 days) wasn't happening. So I have to make one last trek as I cam across this structure which looks cool against the colorful waters and dawn sky.

 

 

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אױ װײ Adam! At least no-one could ever excuse you of not being determined! Forgetful... well, maybe (sometimes, early in the morning... who wouldn't be??). I'm absolutely certain that the picture that results from these repeated early rises will be nothing short of spectacular, and can't wait to see it. Even if it takes another week of the alarm clock getting earlier and earlier...

 

Could the famous photograph that Jean-Marc's fantastic picture reminds you of be this one: http://www.howardgreenberg.com/exhibitions/martine-franck-peregrinations/selected-works?view=slider#8

 

One of my favourite images by anyone - and well done Jean-Marc for reminding me (us) of it with your exquisite picture...

 

And thank you so much for your thoughts on my picture. I didn't think I really liked Cinestill that much, but I've gone a full 180° on that stupid idea!

[stray cat]

Sincerily great thanks to Phil ... i can count upon you to tell  "Film is not dead" 

about "digital is technically superior - and I've no doubt it is"  not sure Phil, if you think "flat" ,

"no soul", "too sharp".... and moiré, scratches,dusts, battery failure, banding, EVF (electronic

viewfinder) failure, shutter fault ,sensor corrosion ...

...logical because get out of one "robot" with electronic circuits*, binary code * , square pixels* .. .

Best

Henry

* the reason I call "robot"and I add "stupid" because with "no nuance" in the result 

 

 

Well OK Henry, shucks, I was just trying for a little diplomacy with my "technically superior" comment. But now that you mention all those things...

[Doc Henry]

@Henry

Looking fo my colour process I found this article

https://www.lomography.com/magazine/236651-tutorial-rollei-c41-digibase-color-film-development

 and so I decided to start with it. I developed 4 films and I am  content with the results.

Temperature round about 32 degrees.

 

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m6 summarit 90 Portra400

 

Rgds

Joachim

 

Yes I just purchase for the first time Rollei dev at Macodirect Germany

I will tell you the result . Usually i work with Tetenal at 30°C or 38°C

Thanks for your link Joachim

So you can work at 32°C

Rg

Henry

Edited August 18, 2017 by Doc Henry

[wattsy]

Yes. One of the things that goes through my mind when I take these photographs is the thought that it might appear I am dragging this tricycle around and placing it in these various locations. Not so. All of the photographs have been shot in an area about one half the size of a city block. Somebody, probably a small child, is still pedaling this thing around. It is, on a certain level, very depressing.....However, for some reason, I prefer to dwell on the determination of the kid and hope to some day meet, or at least see, him or her. 

 

 

 

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I don't find the photos depressing, Wayne – in fact, I find the quiet decrepitude in many of your photos somewhat relaxing. It was your anecdote about the security guard scooting over on a Segway to warn you about taking photos that I thought was both amusing and depressing (with dystopian overtones).

[Doc Henry]

Well OK Henry, shucks, I was just trying for a little diplomacy with my "technically superior" comment. But now that you mention all those things...

 

... and it's true Phil , it's not in a dream   you know  "ccdgate" ? 

http://lavidaleica.com/content/new-leica-ccdgate-scandal-afoot

Edited August 18, 2017 by Doc Henry

[Wayne]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I don't find the photos depressing, Wayne – in fact, I find the quiet decrepitude in many of your photos somewhat relaxing. It was your anecdote about the security guard scooting over on a Segway to warn you about taking photos that I thought was both amusing and depressing (with dystopian overtones).

No need for apology. Absolutely no offense taken.

Edited August 18, 2017 by Wayne

[stray cat]

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Yes. One of the things that goes through my mind when I take these photographs is the thought that it might appear I am dragging this tricycle around and placing it in these various locations. Not so. All of the photographs have been shot in an area about one half the size of a city block. Somebody, probably a small child, is still pedaling this thing around. It is, on a certain level, very depressing.....However, for some reason, I prefer to dwell on the determination of the kid and hope to some day meet, or at least see, him or her. The building that appears in the background is a distillery. It used to be owned by Seagrams but is now owned by another company.

 

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Again, Wayne, Henry is right. Let's think for a moment about "The Americans" by Robert Frank. In it, he used recurring symbols - among them the American flag and jukeboxes (the latter juxtaposed somewhat with coffins, but we won't go there...). With your recurring motif of the tricycle (which, again, has an enormous cultural antecedent in "William Eggleston's Guide") you consistently refer back to youth - specifically, the challenges that youth confronts in the contemporary world. But equally, as Henry so perceptively suggests, perhaps to your own youth Wayne. Conceivably even the knowledge that this tricycle is found next to a liquor distillery feeds into this in a somewhat non-linear but powerful way. I am guessing that much of this comes through your photography in an instinctive/intuitive/subliminal way, but it is strongly and consistently there. Even without the tricycle (and let's hope you do meet its owner someday) your work alludes to so much going on beyond the frame, beyond your town, your state, even beyond your country. Anyway, keep it going, as it is always interesting.

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[Doc Henry]

Sorry, meant to cancel but posted. Could not figure out how to remove photos.

 

Wayne why remove ?  It's great urban pictures

it can follow Paul "living like this" theme ...replace by "abandon like this"

that's a decadence modern civilization ... we build and destroy

A real "wasting" modern period  ...

 

Technically speaking:  nice black Wayne and true atmosphere of abandoned

city , through your pictures . I like much

Best

Henry

Edited August 18, 2017 by Doc Henry

[stray cat]

... and it's true Phil , it's not in a dream   you know  "ccdgate" ? 

http://lavidaleica.com/content/new-leica-ccdgate-scandal-afoot

 

Thanks for the link, Doc. I didn't know of CCDgate, although obviously you become aware of the murmurings of the digital users in this forum from time to time.

 

It is really disappointing that Leica, a relatively small, highly specialized manufacturer of high quality optics and cameras (as well as many other optics-based tools) is unable to keep its customer base completely satisfied. I am not a fan of Canon beyond the FD series, and my son and I bought a Nikon D600 when they came out, only to be burned by the "oil on sensor" issue. By then I was jack of digital anyway. I'd had Olympus gear, which was nice enough but consistently slagged - on forums and alongside others with their "full frame" (typically) Canons - as being inferior ("POS" was a phrase often used). Which was wearing enough, but the thing was - I didn't really, honestly, ever like the pictures I took with any of the digital gear I used - and I used a fairly wide sample of it. In fact, to be brutally honest, I don't really generally care much for the look of pictures I look at now that have been taken with digital gear. Which is not to say digital is bad or doesn't have its place or whatever - I've lots of friends who'd never have been remotely interested in photography without digital, and it is an obvious, natural fit for news/magazines etc. But, as an example, my family and I did a world tour for seven months several (11) years back - I took digital pictures. Where are those pictures now? Gone! I don't know where, but the time I looked at all my backup disks to find some pictures, either the disk was corrupted or it was wrongly labelled or some other thing happened, and the thousands of photos, save for a handful, of that seven month trip are gone. Not so the negatives of the rest of my life I have in their thousands - a pain in the butt to file and keep track of to be honest, but they're still as fresh as the day they were developed - some over forty years ago.

 

Back to Leica - they're a small fish swimming in a very big ocean. They have their niche, but keeping up technologically with the huge corporations is obviously... difficult, let's say. At least they still manufacture and support film cameras - an area they have for many years been world leaders in - not because they produced something as technologically complex and competent as, say, the Nikon F6 - but because their cameras always managed (by virtue of enlightened thinking and design by the original conceptualisers/engineers) to be simple, quiet, and virtually indestructable. "Fit for purpose" for an amazing variety of purposes, and with optics that were (and are) second-to none.  The new paradigm - let's not say it's beyond them, but they've had to re-imagine themselves even more as a luxury brand  than they'd been in the past, and that strategy has been successful, even despite the mishaps with sensors and corrosion and whatever. May it continue to be the case - as long as they continue to produce film cameras. Because without that tangible link to their greatness, I feel they will lose much of their allure.

[Doc Henry]

Thanks for the link, Doc. I didn't know of CCDgate, although obviously you become aware of the murmurings of the digital users in this forum from time to time.

 

It is really disappointing that Leica, a relatively small, highly specialized manufacturer of high quality optics and cameras (as well as many other optics-based tools) is unable to keep its customer base completely satisfied. I am not a fan of Canon beyond the FD series, and my son and I bought a Nikon D600 when they came out, only to be burned by the "oil on sensor" issue. By then I was jack of digital anyway. I'd had Olympus gear, which was nice enough but consistently slagged - on forums and alongside others with their "full frame" (typically) Canons - as being inferior ("POS" was a phrase often used). Which was wearing enough, but the thing was - I didn't really, honestly, ever like the pictures I took with any of the digital gear I used - and I used a fairly wide sample of it. In fact, to be brutally honest, I don't really generally care much for the look of pictures I look at now that have been taken with digital gear. Which is not to say digital is bad or doesn't have its place or whatever - I've lots of friends who'd never have been remotely interested in photography without digital, and it is an obvious, natural fit for news/magazines etc. But, as an example, my family and I did a world tour for seven months several (11) years back - I took digital pictures. Where are those pictures now? Gone! I don't know where, but the time I looked at all my backup disks to find some pictures, either the disk was corrupted or it was wrongly labelled or some other thing happened, and the thousands of photos, save for a handful, of that seven month trip are gone. Not so the negatives of the rest of my life I have in their thousands - a pain in the butt to file and keep track of to be honest, but they're still as fresh as the day they were developed - some over forty years ago.

 

Back to Leica - they're a small fish swimming in a very big ocean. They have their niche, but keeping up technologically with the huge corporations is obviously... difficult, let's say. At least they still manufacture and support film cameras - an area they have for many years been world leaders in - not because they produced something as technologically complex and competent as, say, the Nikon F6 - but because their cameras always managed (by virtue of enlightened thinking and design by the original conceptualisers/engineers) to be simple, quiet, and virtually indestructable. "Fit for purpose" for an amazing variety of purposes, and with optics that were (and are) second-to none.  The new paradigm - let's not say it's beyond them, but they've had to re-imagine themselves even more as a luxury brand  than they'd been in the past, and that strategy has been successful, even despite the mishaps with sensors and corrosion and whatever. May it continue to be the case - as long as they continue to produce film cameras. Because without that tangible link to their greatness, I feel they will lose much of their allure.

 

"But, as an example, my family and I did a world tour for seven months several (11) years back - I took digital pictures. Where are those pictures now? Gone! I don't know where, but the time I looked at all my backup disks to find some pictures, either the disk was corrupted or it was wrongly labelled or some other thing happened, and the thousands of photos, save for a handful, of that seven month trip are gone. Not so the negatives of the rest of my life I have in their thousands - a pain in the butt to file and keep track of to be honest, but they're still as fresh as the day they were developed - some over forty years ago".

 

Phil you "put the finger" on one of the sensible points of digital !

 

Firstly  "ccd gate" affects not only Leica but also Canon with "cmosgate" look at this link :

it's the "measles"

http://lavidaleica.com/content/canon-also-affected-sensor-corrosion

 

Secondly I hate more digital ... because I lost many thousands pictures with my last 2 Western Digital

Hard Drive (DD) 500 Mo each dead ! ...  fortunately I have some negatives I preciously keep

and  finaly safely saving

 

Best

Henry

Edited August 18, 2017 by Doc Henry

[A miller]

 

Thanks, Henry. I teally have no idea what that structure was used for. it doesnt have a lot of "zen" symmetry, but it looked interesting in the VF. The VF of the SWC looked seemingly more interesting; but i also took some photos with the 80mm planar. We shall see!!

 

Joachim soft and nice color

32°C or 30°C Joachim ?

Have you Rollei or Tetenal or other developer  ?

Color seems good at 32°C

 

 

 

Adam , what's that structure ?

Nice gear for a sunrise picture

 

Best regards to both of you

Henry

  

 

 

Phil - wow, that is EXACTLY the photo i was thinking of!! WOW!!! That says a lot - a lot about the ESP between us and also a lot about Jean Marc's photo. There is something about the blacks and overall contrast rendition that made the connection for me.

 

Nice job, Jean Marc!!

אױ װײ Adam! At least no-one could ever excuse you of not being determined! Forgetful... well, maybe (sometimes, early in the morning... who wouldn't be??). I'm absolutely certain that the picture that results from these repeated early rises will be nothing short of spectacular, and can't wait to see it. Even if it takes another week of the alarm clock getting earlier and earlier...

 

Could the famous photograph that Jean-Marc's fantastic picture reminds you of be this one: http://www.howardgreenberg.com/exhibitions/martine-franck-peregrinations/selected-works?view=slider#8

 

One of my favourite images by anyone - and well done Jean-Marc for reminding me (us) of it with your exquisite picture...

 

And thank you so much for your thoughts on my picture. I didn't think I really liked Cinestill that much, but I've gone a full 180° on that stupid idea!

 

[Doc Henry]

Some Fuji Superia 200 for Wayne

 

 

Le Grand Bornand 1200m

Paragliders "paradise"

 

Leica R4S-Fuji Superia 200-Summicron 50

No correction

 

 

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Henry

[Doc Henry]

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Keith beautiful color ... and I like the boy in the middle captured at the right moment

Thank you

Henry

[Guest JMF]

אױ װײ Adam! At least no-one could ever excuse you of not being determined! Forgetful... well, maybe (sometimes, early in the morning... who wouldn't be??). I'm absolutely certain that the picture that results from these repeated early rises will be nothing short of spectacular, and can't wait to see it. Even if it takes another week of the alarm clock getting earlier and earlier...

 

Could the famous photograph that Jean-Marc's fantastic picture reminds you of be this one: http://www.howardgreenberg.com/exhibitions/martine-franck-peregrinations/selected-works?view=slider#8

 

One of my favourite images by anyone - and well done Jean-Marc for reminding me (us) of it with your exquisite picture...

 

And thank you so much for your thoughts on my picture. I didn't think I really liked Cinestill that much, but I've gone a full 180° on that stupid idea!

 

 

Thanks, Henry. I teally have no idea what that structure was used for. it doesnt have a lot of "zen" symmetry, but it looked interesting in the VF. The VF of the SWC looked seemingly more interesting; but i also took some photos with the 80mm planar. We shall see!!

 

  

 

 

Phil - wow, that is EXACTLY the photo i was thinking of!! WOW!!! That says a lot - a lot about the ESP between us and also a lot about Jean Marc's photo. There is something about the blacks and overall contrast rendition that made the connection for me.

 

Nice job, Jean Marc!!

 

 

 

Well that's quite a inspiring chain of thoughts and rather generous of you ! See where contrast and deep blacks can lead us ...!!

Thanks a lot , I love that photo of Martine Franck and it was taken in "Le Brusc" , a small town where my parents actually live ... I have never thru the years encountered that swimming pool yet will inquire for sure ,   I'll be there  again next month :-)

 

Some more from the TriX - Gr1V combo:

 

Centro by JM__, on Flickr

 

Ipanema  - Leblon by JM__, on Flickr

 

Cheers, Jean-Marc ( out of "Thanks" for the day : You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day )

[Doc Henry]

 

 

 

 

 

Well that's quite a inspiring chain of thoughts and rather generous of you ! See where contrast and deep blacks can lead us ...!!

Thanks a lot , I love that photo of Martine Franck and it was taken in "Le Brusc" , a small town where my parents actually live ... I have never thru the years encountered that swimming pool yet will inquire for sure ,   I'll be there  again next month :-)

 

Some more from the TriX - Gr1V combo:

 

Centro by JM__, on Flickr

 

Ipanema  - Leblon by JM__, on Flickr

 

Cheers, Jean-Marc ( out of "Thanks" for the day : You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day )

 

Jean-Marc you know a piece of music Bossa Nova "Girl of Ipanema" played by Getz Gilberto ?

Great music

 

Nice black and grey tone

Thank you for posting

Henry

Edited August 18, 2017 by Doc Henry

[Doc Henry]

Chris , my R8 was too heavy and I miss my picture of our Statue of Liberty

... no it's not true Chris 

 

Paris

2010's

 

 

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Henry

[Guest JMF]

Jean-Marc you know a piece of music Bossa Nova "Girl of Ipanema" played by Getz Gilberto ?

Great music

 

Nice black and grey tone

Thank you for posting

Henry

 

 

Thanks Henry,

a classic song written by Vinicius de Moraes and Antonio Carlos Jobim !

 

Sensia 100 on GR21 Ricoh:

 

Girls of Ipanema... by JM__, on Flickr

 

Cheers, JM

 

[Doc Henry]

For Chris in the right way now

 

 

Fuji Superia 200-Leica R8*-Vario Elmar 35-70mm

 

 

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* I keep my R8 only 2 years after purchase new at the Leica Store

because I don't wish to buy another new lens with Rom or change

all my 6 R lens with Rom mounted by Wetzlar ... secondly I cannot

use these Rom lens once changed , on my 2 old SLR...

that's why I bought the R8 ...  and take a new MP

 

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Thanks Henry,

a classic song written by Vinicius de Moraes and Antonio Carlos Jobim !

 

Sensia 100 on GR21 Ricoh:

 

Girls of Ipanema... by JM__, on Flickr

 

Cheers, JM

 

 

JM I have this song both in CD and Vinyl disc ... you guess what support is better ?

On my vacuum amplifier wow it's sublime .... in Vinyl

 

Nice color and picture JM and beautiful girls

and thanks for the link

Best

Henry

Edited August 18, 2017 by Doc Henry