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'I seem to remember having read somewhere that in a real-world setting (as opposed to under controlled circumstances) there isn't any "correct" colour; there are only more or less "accurate" representations of colour, which will necessarily be based on the observer's perception.'

 

 

Years ago I worked as an art teacher. I remember a test involving the red colour of the original cocacola sign. Students had 20 minutes to replicate the red of the sign in watercolours. This test had been earlier performed in the USA by 300 art students. Each result had then scientifically been messured. It showed that only one student got it right, some came close, but most were way off the original.

 

As you correctly note, Philip, all of us have different perceptions of colour. It is not a question of wrong or right.

 

Thank you for taking the time to make it clear!

Best, Xenia

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Hi Gary

 

I have noted that we all need calibrated monitors. I use 3 monitors in work and each reproduces colour differently, work from the same driver, are the same size and all made by Dell.

 

At home I use a macBook.

 

Again what I see influenced by ambient light (artificial late at night). I have already turned my green with Portra 400 down to 80% on the scanner software because Henry pointed that out. Thought I had sorted the problem! Obviously not. I will ask my family if they see the same and my colleagues in work. They all know I have colour issues, so are used to helping me out.

 

I shall have to convert all to B&W for now I think.

 

Btw on my iPhone they look fine to me. I'll ask a few people - they'll soon tell me.

 

Regards

 

Christopher

 

 

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I'm with Gary on this, Christopher - Those renderings have a very strong green cast. The contents are good, so a white balance adjustment will produce good results.

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Hi Christopher and everybody else too

 

I don't have the time to be brief so forgive this long post...

 

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Philip

I'm glad you didn't have time to be brief, Philip - An excellent post. It reminded me of the observation by Monet of his changing perception of colour as his eyes aged, viewing the annual cycle of his garden.

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Thanks Christopher.

Being colour blind will possibly explain it then, and I was more asking if there was a simple "get it right every time" button one could use. I would use it myself.

The camellia shots for example, one is to my mind grossly green, again not being critical, just asking.

Gary

 

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Better ?

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I love this, JM - It's like being there!

 

 

Thanks Eoin, 

I have more... same film Kodak E200 shot on a Horizon 202

 

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Ok - using Camera Raw Filter in Photoshop I selected a neutral area. Defined as one where RGB are all within a range of 6 points by using colour selector. Then used white balance on the selection. So please note according to my friends the fence is green.

 

Portra 400 (photo in sun)

 

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DLux Typ 109 (photo in shade)

 

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I think the digital flower should be a little more vibrant. Jpeg out of camera.

 

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Regards

 

Christopher

 

 

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'I seem to remember having read somewhere that in a real-world setting (as opposed to under controlled circumstances) there isn't any "correct" colour; there are only more or less "accurate" representations of colour, which will necessarily be based on the observer's perception.'

 

 

Years ago I worked as an art teacher. I remember a test involving the red colour of the original cocacola sign. Students had 20 minutes to replicate the red of the sign in watercolours. This test had been earlier performed in the USA by 300 art students. Each result had then scientifically been messured. It showed that only one student got it right, some came close, but most were way off the original.

 

As you correctly note, Philip, all of us have different perceptions of colour. It is not a question of wrong or right.

 

Thank you for taking the time to make it clear!

Best, Xenia

Thank you for your comments, I too studied fine art for a while. John Constable was colour blind too. I love his work.

 

Regards

 

Christopher

 

 

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What?! I'm getting older? :D

 

I'm glad you didn't have time to be brief, Philip - An excellent post. It reminded me of the observation by Monet of his changing perception of colour as his eyes aged, viewing the annual cycle of his garden.

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Railway to the Sun ......

 

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Canon EOS 1n, EF 28-105, Illford XP2

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Kodak Portra 400

 

 

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Thanks Chris . You dev yourself ?

 

 

Here one picture with Kodak Portra 400 dev by myself in Tetenal 38°C

I think green and red are Kodak color

 

 

M7-Macro Elmar 90-tripod

 

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Heny

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Thanks Chris . You dev yourself ?

 

 

Here one picture with Kodak Portra 400 dev by myself in Tetenal 38°C

I think green and red are Kodak color

 

 

M7-Macro Elmar 90-tripod

 

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Best

Heny

Beautiful Henry. Yes developed Saturday and Sunday more to come using new white balance technique from Philipp

 

Thank you

 

Christopher

 

 

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Philip

 

Thank you for his. I greatly appreciate your time in responding. I think I may be able to make this work as I predominantly use the raw filter.

 

Kind regards

 

Christopher

 

 

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I think if you correct colour film too much you are going to loose the distinctive look of certain films

 

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