Doc Henry Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share #27981 Posted February 10, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Right, I sort of promised the colour segment, and while they are not as simple as the B&W, I was happy that the B&W post didn't turn into a squabble match. I think most are happy to use either or both, some are film only, and I respect that, others are digital only as well, both are happy. The film shots were with the R8, and the R28-70 zoom, used Kodak 200, so a basic el cheapo colour film. Processed locally by a semi decent lab, and scanned via my Plustek 8100. Same deal as the mono, slight downsizing to match the digital dimensions. No sharpening, no mucking with them. I'd be less than honest if I said I had a faultless scanning discipline for colour, the Kodak 200 always seems to give me a bit of a cast. Digital was same as the B&W stuff, all with the X-Pro2, and this time I used the Fuji XF18-56 zoom, and where I was able to, I matched the view zoom-wise with each camera, R8 being an SLR, Fuji having an EVF. Similar/same apertures. RAW files converted with the Fuji raw convertor, then converted to a JPEG in Photoshop. Same deal as the B&W, take it all with a grain of salt, no scrapping, it's more an exercise in seeing how the two mediums stack up. Gary The colors are not the same The brown wood and the red orchard of the house in front and especially the foliage in the foreground at the top Not the same color and is darker on the first 1 Fuji and 2 R8 Thanks Gary Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Henry Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share #27982 Posted February 10, 2017 And to complete the trifecta, normal transmission returns. Rue Monge. M6 50 Summicron M T-Max 100 R09 1:50 Plustek 8100 Gary Rue Monge the great street in old center Paris Very welknown street , have the open air market in saturday Thanks Gary 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share #27983 Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) I did one other, this complete with dust and colour cast from poor processing is blatantly obvious. Gary Like this Gary ? for the sky I removed dusts The color of electric pole is not the same . Which is like you see in 1 or 2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Henry Edited February 10, 2017 by Doc Henry 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3209290'>More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27984 Posted February 10, 2017 Like this Gary ? for the sky I removed dusts The color of electric pole is not the same . Which is like you see in 1 or 2 post-27401-0-80241100-1486711967-2-4.jpg Henry Thanks Henry. I actually like the Fuji shot better for this subject and not because of the dust either, it's just sharper and cleaner. I didn't want to mess with any of it, simple scan and post. Gary 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share #27985 Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Thanks Henry. I actually like the Fuji shot better for this subject and not because of the dust either, it's just sharper and cleaner. I didn't want to mess with any of it, simple scan and post. Gary I recognize on some color pictures , you have sometimes a cast or a veil (development temperature bath, old developer ?) It also depends on film brand . With Kodak Portra 160 or 400 (warmer) I have less . Even Kodachrome have sometimes a little blue cast may be Fuji Velvia or Provia have less or no cast. Anyway , color is very difficult to reproduce and film (vs sensor) reproduces almost the best for the reason of difference in spectral curve between eyes and sensor like you can read in my post above. Not easy ! b&w is simpler isn't Gary ? As I tested Fuji XPro1 versus M8 I think the color of sky in Fuji is nice too ! Click top , middle and right icon to enlarge http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Doc+Henry/DSCF9034arbrlongxpro1lught___red1200.jpg.html http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Doc+Henry/L1014667arblongm828cronlught___red1200.jpg.html Best Henry Edited February 10, 2017 by Doc Henry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27986 Posted February 10, 2017 I also like this one a lot. Technically very well done with pleasant verticals and an appealing contrasting composition. beautifully lit housing by Theodor Kierdorf, auf FlickrLeica M-A Ilford Delta 100 Professional Really excellent, what amazing definition. Love the composition too, and the action in the lower left makes a beautiful landscape shot even more interesting. I have just bought my first 5-pack of Ektar to shoot with the Hasselblad. Very much looking forward to it. A young family stops to take a father/daughter photograph near a waterfall in Yosemite National Park. This was taken just before Christmas 2016. Hasselblad SWC on Kodak Ektar 100 Thank you Gary, I always find such comparisons interesting. The intrinsic qualities of film are evident and so are the strengths of digital. What this comparison shows in particular is that there really isn't any "accurate" colour. It's all perception. br Philip Right, I sort of promised the colour segment, and while they are not as simple as the B&W, I was happy that the B&W post didn't turn into a squabble match. I think most are happy to use either or both, some are film only, and I respect that, others are digital only as well, both are happy. The film shots were with the R8, and the R28-70 zoom, used Kodak 200, so a basic el cheapo colour film. Processed locally by a semi decent lab, and scanned via my Plustek 8100. Same deal as the mono, slight downsizing to match the digital dimensions. No sharpening, no mucking with them. I'd be less than honest if I said I had a faultless scanning discipline for colour, the Kodak 200 always seems to give me a bit of a cast. Digital was same as the B&W stuff, all with the X-Pro2, and this time I used the Fuji XF18-56 zoom, and where I was able to, I matched the view zoom-wise with each camera, R8 being an SLR, Fuji having an EVF. Similar/same apertures. RAW files converted with the Fuji raw convertor, then converted to a JPEG in Photoshop. Same deal as the B&W, take it all with a grain of salt, no scrapping, it's more an exercise in seeing how the two mediums stack up. Gary 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27987 Posted February 10, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Saw this surfer on the beach in December. Flickr 80 Planar Provia 400X 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share #27988 Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Philip have you read this ? http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/TND6114-D.PDF in my post : http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?p=3206514 Edited February 10, 2017 by Doc Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotomas Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27989 Posted February 10, 2017 I did one other, this complete with dust and colour cast from poor processing is blatantly obvious. Gary Thanks for the interesting comparison. But in my opinion the film is not showing his full potential here, mostly due to the color cast. Hope it's OK that I've done some tweaking. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Guess it could be even better when it's done in the scanning, instead with a 8bit jpeg file. Regards Frank 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Guess it could be even better when it's done in the scanning, instead with a 8bit jpeg file. Regards Frank ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3209351'>More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27990 Posted February 10, 2017 Here are a few more shots of this quirky wedding from September 2015. First the bride meeting some of her well-wishers after the wedding. Breaking away after the group photos... The young people taking photos with their iPads, like large format camera.... The get away car/ van.... My daughter sitting in the driver seat Nothing "normal" about this wedding.... it was good fun. I do wonder if the lens may have been the 28mm Biogon too. Looking at the shots I am not sure. The film was definitely Kodak Portra 160 though. It was a very relaxed wedding. Regards Christopher Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Wonderful series! Really lovely. Love the Kombi 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27991 Posted February 10, 2017 KEith - Technically, this photo is great. But if I may be honest the tree has no "zen" and doesn't facilitate a strong composition. In a way its limpness is even a bit depressing... Thanks, Adam. I'll have a word with it next time I'm passing and tell it to buck its ideas up... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27992 Posted February 10, 2017 Lovely shots Henry. I took some photos of the wedding of my God-fathers daughter in the summer of 2015. They had tea on the lawn beside the church afterwards. It's a lovely informal shot of a Welsh bride. Only a Welsh bride could have tea straight after her wedding! These were taken with the M6 TTL and CZ Sonnar 50/1.5 I think. It was the first summer I returned to film - 2015. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk These and the others in the series are very well captured - and a ZM Sonnar 50mm f1.5 is almost permanently attached to my M7 - great lens for film. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27993 Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Right, I sort of promised the colour segment, and while they are not as simple as the B&W, I was happy that the B&W post didn't turn into a squabble match. I think most are happy to use either or both, some are film only, and I respect that, others are digital only as well, both are happy. The film shots were with the R8, and the R28-70 zoom, used Kodak 200, so a basic el cheapo colour film. Processed locally by a semi decent lab, and scanned via my Plustek 8100. Same deal as the mono, slight downsizing to match the digital dimensions. No sharpening, no mucking with them. I'd be less than honest if I said I had a faultless scanning discipline for colour, the Kodak 200 always seems to give me a bit of a cast. Digital was same as the B&W stuff, all with the X-Pro2, and this time I used the Fuji XF18-56 zoom, and where I was able to, I matched the view zoom-wise with each camera, R8 being an SLR, Fuji having an EVF. Similar/same apertures. RAW files converted with the Fuji raw convertor, then converted to a JPEG in Photoshop. Same deal as the B&W, take it all with a grain of salt, no scrapping, it's more an exercise in seeing how the two mediums stack up. Gary Gary - The film shot is underexposed by at least one stop. But it DOES show much better retention of details in the highlights and DR in general. The digital shot has much more contrast right out of the camera. The film shot is much flatter right out of the scanner. But for the small under-exposure in the film shot (which may be due to the settings of the scan not allowing for some blown highlights), all is well in the world under the proper lens.... I will go with the film shot every day of the week sans the el cheapo film Edited February 10, 2017 by A miller 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27994 Posted February 10, 2017 5th Avenue, NYC IIIg, 50mm Elmar (LTM collapsible), Ilford FP4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3209462'>More sharing options...
mrckdavies Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27995 Posted February 10, 2017 I like to have the M6 TTL with the 28mm Biogon ZM and 50/1.5 Sonnar along with the small 35/2.4 new Summarit and Voigtländer 75mm Heliar Classic together. The M3 with the 21mm Elmarit f2.8 & Viewfinder, 50/1.5 Summarit (or ZM), 90mm Tele-Elmarit f2.8 & 135mm Apo-Telyt. The M9 I like to use with the Voigtländer 35/1.2 Nokton and my older leica lenses which were my early starter lenses. Regards Christopher Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27996 Posted February 10, 2017 Right, I sort of promised the colour segment, and while they are not as simple as the B&W, I was happy that the B&W post didn't turn into a squabble match. I think most are happy to use either or both, some are film only, and I respect that, others are digital only as well, both are happy. The film shots were with the R8, and the R28-70 zoom, used Kodak 200, so a basic el cheapo colour film. Processed locally by a semi decent lab, and scanned via my Plustek 8100. Same deal as the mono, slight downsizing to match the digital dimensions. No sharpening, no mucking with them. I'd be less than honest if I said I had a faultless scanning discipline for colour, the Kodak 200 always seems to give me a bit of a cast. Digital was same as the B&W stuff, all with the X-Pro2, and this time I used the Fuji XF18-56 zoom, and where I was able to, I matched the view zoom-wise with each camera, R8 being an SLR, Fuji having an EVF. Similar/same apertures. RAW files converted with the Fuji raw convertor, then converted to a JPEG in Photoshop. Same deal as the B&W, take it all with a grain of salt, no scrapping, it's more an exercise in seeing how the two mediums stack up. Gary No. 1 digital, no. 2 film. It was only the small dust spot on the left edge that gave away which was which! Agree with Adam that the exposure of the film shot needs a lift. Regarding the pylons, a pity the white balance on the film one was not corrected in scanning (or in LR). As far as one can tell, the details & definition of the scanned film image hold up well against the digital. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27997 Posted February 10, 2017 One more from Saturdays walk on the Marlborough Downs. Cropped from 35mm neg. IIIg, 5cm Summicron Collapsible, Acros 100, Rodinal. Setting Off Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 14 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3209468'>More sharing options...
mrckdavies Posted February 10, 2017 Share #27998 Posted February 10, 2017 One more from Saturdays walk on the Marlborough Downs. Cropped from 35mm neg. IIIg, 5cm Summicron Collapsible, Acros 100, Rodinal. Setting Off I love these landscapes- keep them coming! Regards Christopher Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share #27999 Posted February 10, 2017 5th Avenue, NYC IIIg, 50mm Elmar (LTM collapsible), Ilford FP4 5th.jpg Wow in b&w and with your IIIg Adam , wonderful , it changes from color Thanks for sharing with us specially this thread . I watch only mostly film thread Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share #28000 Posted February 10, 2017 I love these landscapes- keep them coming! Regards Christopher Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with Chris Lovely landscape very "zen" or if you want peaceful Thanks Keith Henry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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