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Bonjour Henri,   I still prefer black and white film (I use almost no colour). The advantages of digital don’t mean much to me. Seeing instant results is not so useful, since what comes out of a cam

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Cristoph - This is only the second roll of Fomapan 200 that I have used (from a box of 5) and I doubt that I will be buying any more.  What I do not like with the 200 is the grain in featureless areas such as the sky - they appear to be quite noisy.  On the other hand, in more complex and varying images such as the one below (Rolleicord Vb + yellow filter), the results can be more to my liking.  The '200' designation does seem optimistic.  For the above landscapes I had a yellow/green filter (filter factor +2) so had my meter set to ISO 100 to compensate.  The negatives look to be underexposed by between half a stop and a full stop.  Development was in Rodinal 1:50 for ten minutes as per Massive Dev database. 

 

It will be interesting to see how Fomapan 100 performs - I have five rolls waiting to be used...  

 

 

Keith, 

 

I tried a number of developers with Fomapan 200, none of them really tamed the grain (but partially that may be my scanner as well).

FX-39 seems to harmonise quite well giving nice punchy results without pronouncing the grain too much.

 

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This is interesting Christoph, as I too have found Fomapan 200 to be quite grainy. The 400 I expected to be like this, and from memory the 100 is OK, but the 200 was a definite "disappointment" (to me).

 

My standard developer is R09 and while I could change that, I prefer it for it's one shot simplicity, and it's (relative) longevity.

 

I am getting to the stage where I want to settle out on a single 100 and 400 ISO combination, and stick with that. At the moment I have T-Max 100 and 400, plus TX-400, FP4+, and Delta 100 all in the freezer, along with Fomapan 100, 200, and 400. Too many options.

 

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This is interesting Christoph, as I too have found Fomapan 200 to be quite grainy. The 400 I expected to be like this, and from memory the 100 is OK, but the 200 was a definite "disappointment" (to me).

 

My standard developer is R09 and while I could change that, I prefer it for it's one shot simplicity, and it's (relative) longevity.

 

I am getting to the stage where I want to settle out on a single 100 and 400 ISO combination, and stick with that. At the moment I have T-Max 100 and 400, plus TX-400, FP4+, and Delta 100 all in the freezer, along with Fomapan 100, 200, and 400. Too many options.

 

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Fomapan 200 is definitely off my shopping list. A box of five rolls of its 100 sister product await testing.  I thought I would try them out to replace Acros 100, should it become either too expensive or unavailable.  For faster film I will stay with Tri-X.  

 

Due to my travels in Spring and autumn making gaps between development sessions of three months or so, Rodinal is the only developer I can trust. Yes, I know I could use an inert gas or fill the bottle with marbles for other developers, but there would always be that nagging doubt...  

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Keith, 

 

I tried a number of developers with Fomapan 200, none of them really tamed the grain (but partially that may be my scanner as well).

FX-39 seems to harmonise quite well giving nice punchy results without pronouncing the grain too much.

 

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M3, 24, Foma200, FX-39, ns

 

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Great photo. Can you give us any details on how you captured it - tripod used? Shutter speed? Other? Thanks, Peter 

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These were from a roll of Fomapan 200 (and Ilfosol 3) and it is much more grainy than I remember.

I imagine I used it at box speed. I ended up opting for Acros or Delta for a faster option.

 

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These were from a roll of Fomapan 200 (and Ilfosol 3) and it is much more grainy than I remember.

I imagine I used it at box speed. I ended up opting for Acros or Delta for a faster option.

 

Mamiya M645 (both cropped to square)

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To me these photographs are wonderful, there is nothing wrong with the grain in them.

 

I believe that our memories today are clouded by a decade or more of smooth, grainless digital images. Film hasn't suddenly got grainier, we just don't see it all the time like we used to.

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Keith, 

 

I tried a number of developers with Fomapan 200, none of them really tamed the grain (but partially that may be my scanner as well).

FX-39 seems to harmonise quite well giving nice punchy results without pronouncing the grain too much.

 

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M3, 24, Foma200, FX-39, ns

 

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Christoph,

I think for all ISO 100 the FX-39 should be a good choice. Mirko Böddecker (Adox) suggested to use this developer only for films with ISO 100, if I remember correctly. I bought the same developer for my 4 rolls of Silvermax 100 ... can't wait to test it.

 

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These were from a roll of Fomapan 200 (and Ilfosol 3) and it is much more grainy than I remember.

I imagine I used it at box speed. I ended up opting for Acros or Delta for a faster option.

 

Mamiya M645 (both cropped to square)

 

 

 

I am absolutly agree with Mike. These photos are wonderful and I can't see what should be wrong the grain. The grain looks very nice ... :)

 

Beste regards

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I have shot a bit of Fomapan 100 (in 135) and developed in HC-110 and Diafine. In the former it's a nice film, I find, and I like the sort of "crystalline" grain. I'm not sure if that makes sense but if you check one of the below at 100% on Flickr you might see what I mean. There's a sparkle or shine to the ones developed in HC-110. Or I'm just imagining things. Diafine gives a mushier, less distinct grain but then again it is a different kind of developer.

 

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Diafine 50/2 (11817)

 

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