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Bonjour Henri,   I still prefer black and white film (I use almost no colour). The advantages of digital don’t mean much to me. Seeing instant results is not so useful, since what comes out of a cam

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Hello Henry,

 

Nice photos.

 

Whether or not Kodachrome 64 (or Kodachrome 25) produce "perfect color", they certainly set the standard to be aimed for today.

 

The way original Kodachrome set the standard for color & granularity in 1935.

 

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Michael

 

Michael, anyway the films combined with present lens or even old and new cameras like M7 or MP

or other M give a result far beyond digital  !  and at least that's my impression and my resentment

for somebody like me who start and was looking for a digital camera like a Leica M8 who came out

in 2008-2009.

So I learned to shoot with range finder M and I abandoned Leica SLR ... I still have R lens I keep :)

Thanks for your remark

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Guys, I did it finally. but I think I posted on different section! here's the link. Let me know.

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/254374-my-first-film-rolls/?p=2948735

Hi Rodrique - It is great to finally see your film images!  And I look forward to seeing more.  Please do share the type of film used so we have a good reference point.   Best, Adam

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Another place , another time ... but always with Kodachrome.

 

 

Against global warming , other energy sources for our children , the wind :)  !

cloudy that day

 

 

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Kodachrome 64

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...  a blue sky with clouds as we often like to see , as in this photo

I know Gary sees this every day when he flies :D

 

Taken from a glider  :)

 

Kodachrome 64

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Hello,Adam,

 

When I wrote that Original Kodachrome set the standard for color & granularity 80 years ago & Kodachrome 24, Kodachrome 40 & Kodachrome 64 (Very similar films.) still do the same thing today, I was not writing that their specific renditions were what others should emulate. Rather, I was writing that their mix of color accuracy, granularity, etc create images of a very high level which are still usable as a standard of comparison today.    

 

It is the total mix (Not the specific rendition.) that is to be emulated.

 

Just like a Leitz/Leica, camera/lens might have a certain aspect that might be challenged by another brand, and yet, when all the parts interact together the Leitz/Leica, cameras/lenses can often produce a combination which operates at a standard that is difficult to exceed.

 

The same with Kodachrome 25/40/64.

 

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Hello,Adam,

 

When I wrote that Original Kodachrome set the standard for color & granularity 80 years ago & Kodachrome 24, Kodachrome 40 & Kodachrome 64 (Very similar films.) still do the same thing today, I was not writing that their specific renditions were what others should emulate. Rather, I was writing that their mix of color accuracy, granularity, etc create images of a very high level which are still usable as a standard of comparison today.    

 

It is the total mix (Not the specific rendition.) that is to be emulated.

 

Just like a Leitz/Leica, camera/lens might have a certain aspect that might be challenged by another brand, and yet, when all the parts interact together the Leitz/Leica, cameras/lenses can often produce a combination which operates at a standard that is difficult to exceed.

 

The same with Kodachrome 25/40/64.

 

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Michael

 

Thanks for clarifying, Michael. I was indeed confused.

I generally agree except for the point about kodachrome serving as a gold standard for color accuracy relative to other modern films, particularly those on the market today.

I think it is generally understood that today's slide film stocks have a more accurate and balanced color palette relative to kodachrome. This of course doesnt make them better or more desirable films...

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Thanks Henry. Yes, I find Portra converts quite nicely to black and white (might be sacrilege to some :D ).

Incidentally, Keith will already know but I meant to mention that my photo above was taken just off the Ridgeway (and a pleasant walk from the pub in Keith's photo)

Presumably referring to #8546? The Red Lion a short walk from the Berkshire Downs???  :0  ;)

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Hello Adam,

 

Thank you for your reply # 8572, just above.

We are allowed to disagree about which colors we prefer.

 

Prefer, after all, is what we are talking about.

 

Other than some early films from over 100 years ago that actually captured colors as they existed at the time the photo was take:

 

"Color Films" are actually a sandwich of black & white films, spacers, filters, etc which capture images that are filtered thru red, green & blue* filters or thru magenta cyan & yellow* filters & then developed & printed (Or projected) at a later date. The "color" is a dye assigned during processing to replace the silver in the specific black & white layer of a standard silver based black & white film which is representing a specific color.

 

*Sometimes there are more than just the 3 primary colors or their complements.

 

Film manufacturers CHOOSE what red will be red, or what cyan will be cyan, etc.

 

It is the mix of these pallets that determine the specific outcome.

 

Sometimes the manufacturers even changes the pallet of a single film available at the same time in different parts of the World. As an example: A number of years ago Kodak let it be known that there were different versions of their pallet of the same film sold simultaneously in different places around the World because they found that their customer base preferred different types of renditions of colors in different parts of the World.

 

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Hello Adam,

 

Thank you for your reply # 8572, just above.

 

We are allowed to disagree about which colors we prefer.

 

Prefer, after all, is what we are talking about.

 

Other than some early films from over 100 years ago that actually captured colors as they existed at the time the photo was take:

 

"Color Films" are actually a sandwich of black & white films, spacers, filters, etc which capture images that are filtered thru red, green & blue* filters or thru magenta cyan & yellow* filters & then developed & printed (Or projected) at a later date. The "color" is a dye assigned during processing to replace the silver in the specific black & white layer of a standard silver based black & white film which is representing a specific color.

 

*Sometimes there are more than just the 3 primary colors or their complements.

 

Film manufacturers CHOOSE what red will be red, or what cyan will be cyan, etc.

 

It is the mix of these pallets that determine the specific outcome.

 

Sometimes the manufacturers even changes the pallet of a single film available at the same time in different parts of the World. As an example: A number of years ago Kodak let it be known that there were different versions of their pallet of the same film sold simultaneously in different places around the World because they found that their customer base preferred different types of renditions of colors in different parts of the World.

 

Best Regards,

 

Michael

Very interesting, Michael.  Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

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...   just to see the color Kodachrome again , especially when it's sunny :)

what a beautiful yellow.

 

Michael, on one of the 2 sides of the slide, I see the "relief" on the film.

I know it is a "positive"... slide

 

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Looks like Portra 400 can produce pastel colours ;)  Rolleicord Vb.

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Portra 400 can also do black and white (follow up to my previous photo). I think I might start shooting more of this film (with the intention of converting it to B&W) rather than the C41 black and white that I find myself shooting more of at this time of year. 

 

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Portra 400 can also do black and white (follow up to my previous photo). I think I might start shooting more of this film (with the intention of converting it to B&W) rather than the C41 black and white that I find myself shooting more of at this time of year. 

 

 

While I can't/won't argue with your reasoning Ian, why? Why not shoot B&W to start with?

Having seen the above photo I can see it works, and works well. Is it so you can also have the original colour shot?

I find I am always using B&W, I like the "look", and I seem to like the process, with the ability to wet print if and when the mood takes me.

Gary

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