foolli Posted February 17, 2013 Share #1 Posted February 17, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) dear all, I am extremely new to Leica and lucky enough to start with the Monochrom. While not normally a pixel counter, I just feel, as customers, we deserve something 100% perfect for a camera at this price.I have circled the suspected dead pixel(s) in the red. and the 100% crop Should I send this back to Leica? thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foolli Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted February 17, 2013 dear all, I am extremely new to Leica, and lucky enough to start with the Monochrom. The camera has been with me for about 2 weeks, love love love. While normally not a pixel counter, I found dead pixel(s), circled in red, and also the 11% crop. I just feel, we deserve 100% perfection for a camera at this price. Should I return it to Leica? Will I get a perfect sensor? thanks. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/198474-monochrom-one-dead-pixel-or-two/?do=findComment&comment=2245409'>More sharing options...
foolli Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted February 17, 2013 this crop illustrates the problem better Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/198474-monochrom-one-dead-pixel-or-two/?do=findComment&comment=2245424'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 17, 2013 Share #4 Posted February 17, 2013 If it bothers you send it back for a remap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted February 17, 2013 Share #5 Posted February 17, 2013 excellent job noticing that it took me 8 months to notice an oil spot on my sensor...and it was noticably bigger than 1 pixel Some dealer may even swap a new Monochrom for this one if you ask them (and if by chance, they have a brand new Monochrom lying around) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted February 17, 2013 Share #6 Posted February 17, 2013 You are right to expect perfection. On the other hand, you have to judge whether the likely loss of your Monochrom for several weeks is worth it, over one pixel. For me, I would likely keep the Monochrom and not send it in. It's not like some of the problems that people have had, including me, where an entire line of pixels in the M9 showed up as faulty. It's not perfect, but you really have to look to find the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 17, 2013 Share #7 Posted February 17, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica's problem is that defects like this usually appear in transit. Sony, for instance, is said to ship sensors and cameras by sea instead of air for this reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmldds Posted February 17, 2013 Share #8 Posted February 17, 2013 You are right to expect perfection. On the other hand, you have to judge whether the likely loss of your Monochrom for several weeks is worth it, over one pixel. For me, I would likely keep the Monochrom and not send it in. It's not like some of the problems that people have had, including me, where an entire line of pixels in the M9 showed up as faulty. It's not perfect, but you really have to look to find the problem. +1. There are imperfections in everything in life. If you can live with a tiny one, don't fret over it. Think of it as a tiny chip on your first Mercedes windshield... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted February 17, 2013 Share #9 Posted February 17, 2013 +1. There are imperfections in everything in life. If you can live with a tiny one' date=' don't fret over it. Think of it as a tiny chip on your first Mercedes windshield...[/quote'] Problem is if he sells it at some point resale takes a hit because Leica buyers are very particular! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 17, 2013 Share #10 Posted February 17, 2013 Not about cameras that have paid a visit to Solms Actually buyers prefer it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted February 17, 2013 Share #11 Posted February 17, 2013 Not about cameras that have paid a visit to Solms Actually buyers prefer it. I meant if he doesn't get it fixed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 17, 2013 Share #12 Posted February 17, 2013 Most raw converters map out pixels like this automatically - you never need to see it. Other manufacturers have onboard pixel-mapping functionality, but in effect these are doing exactly the same as the raw converters (that is, converting the pixel to a near-neighbor value). I really wouldn't worry about it - after a few years there'll be a few more, but you honestly need never see them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 17, 2013 Share #13 Posted February 17, 2013 Dear OP I was on the phone with Leica NJ this last week because the spots on my MM sensor appear to be spots not dead pixels and I wanted them to clean it and while there recalibrate it too. During the conversation Carmen said that if you have dead pixels to send them some image examples and they can fix the problem. I asked how long they would keep it. The reply was with new camera they try to turn around the camera such as the MM within around 5 business days. Not too bad I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 17, 2013 Share #14 Posted February 17, 2013 Sony, for instance, is said to ship sensors and cameras by sea instead of air for this reason. Now I know why anything Sony has sea salt in it. Just never knew why. They say too much salt is bad for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolli Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share #15 Posted February 17, 2013 thanks all. I think i will send it back for a remap. it's just a white dot at ISO 320, but becomes a white/black line when pushed higher. I only have had the brand new camera for a few days. will send back after my coming holiday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsjxyz Posted September 26, 2013 Share #16 Posted September 26, 2013 I would be happy if LR wipe out the dead pixel as it does in the M9 DNG files, but it seems it doesn't do anything with MM Raw file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jffielde Posted September 26, 2013 Share #17 Posted September 26, 2013 Problem is if he sells it at some point resale takes a hit because Leica buyers are very particular! I've found just the reverse to be true: In my experience Leica buyers are the least particular of camera purchasers, often turning a forgiving eye toward even significant defects or shortcomings. Maybe my own experience is atypical, but I've been surprised by how far many Leica users (there are exceptions of course), are willing to lower the bar for their equipment. Looking at it positively, perhaps they're more inclined to get out and shoot (or perfect technique) than to dwell on equipment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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