JDFlood Posted January 28, 2013 Share #21 Â Posted January 28, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Chris, if you don't really know what you need a tablet for, then you should probably refrain from buying one; and let both your ideas and the market mature. Â Most folks i know had to get one to realize the many many new functions it would perform that they had no idea it could do or they would ever want it to do. In this case, buy now, then figure it out... You get a big reward. JD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest WPalank Posted January 28, 2013 Share #22 Â Posted January 28, 2013 I have the latest iteration of the IPad (Not the mini). I process all my images at home on my Mac Pro then Using a preset within Lightroom with the optimized size on the long side, sharpening, etc, export to a folder on my Desktop that I then download through iTunes to the iPad. For client reviews, showing to friends or anyone that might listen, the images seen through the Retina-like display are simply stunning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooferdog Posted January 28, 2013 Share #23  Posted January 28, 2013 Hi Chris  The iPad is of limited use for a photographer (my experience) , it's fine for jpegs , to show friends etc , they do look good on the iPad.  BUT , the real danger is , once you buy an iPad .... it will work it's way into your heart and you will find you can't bare to be without it  Regards  Leslie (a three iPad family) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted January 28, 2013 Share #24 Â Posted January 28, 2013 A table is a great way to quickly view pictures (not .DNG of course). But for heaven's sake don't hold one up to take pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share #25 Â Posted January 28, 2013 A table is a great way to quickly view pictures (not .DNG of course). But for heaven's sake don't hold one up to take pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted January 28, 2013 Share #26 Â Posted January 28, 2013 Any thoughts re the Android with images - at least for viewing / presenting to clients? Â The Android is quite useful just for showing portfolio given that you export photos to pad through PC and keep copies locally at pad. For all other work related to photo the pads IMO are next to unusable. Even for uploads, viewing, processing, etc they are so restricted and poor in usability that they serve as on other than toys. It makes much, much more sense to purchase a ultrabook. Â As to converting to the Glossy Side (Apfel), the action doom you forever, and its a punishment in itself . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share #27 Â Posted January 28, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) As to converting to the Glossy Side (Apfel), the action doom you forever, and its a punishment in itself . Â I still have happy memories of the command line - I never trusted that smiley on the original Apfels... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyedward Posted January 28, 2013 Share #28  Posted January 28, 2013 I think I'd like a tablet, but am paralysed with indecision when faced with a choice between Android, Apple and Windows 8RT. I also meet determined opposition from my son when it comes to the IPod - which is kind of sexy... He's a committed Linux user and declares that the Ipod's locked-in OS (where every application has to work in its own silo) makes it worse than useless for productive purposes + I have a general suspicion of devices that are primarily aimed at consuming stuff rather than doing things (which I think is the case with tablets). Has anyone out there found a compelling reason for a photographer to buy a tablet (especially one which has a fixed storage capacity, a fairly short battery life and a 12 month upgrade cycle). My current laptop is a two year old Sony Vaio that will last me for another two or three years and can be used for everything from browsing and emails to image and audio editing + showing work to clients. I'd sort of like a tablet, but I've not yet seen how one would seriously add to my life. Being able to use google in the bathroom doesn't quite do it for me...  I think I need counselling on this...  I'm ambivalent about tablets. Like you, I also believe tablets are for consuming rather than creating, and are perhaps a money spinning product aimed at providing for a need that doesn't exist. When I think of the features a tablet would ideally have, only a laptop comes close.  On the other hand, I find the form factor attractive, particularly for entertainment purposes and ebooks. Wireless keyboards are available which may increase a tablets functionality, though this obviously strays into laptop territory. I believe Intel is developing powerful CPU's for windows-based tablets, which would certainly speed up post processing software Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustafasoleiman Posted January 28, 2013 Share #29  Posted January 28, 2013 My iPad mini 64gb/3G lives next to my M9s. I shoot dng+jpeg, use iPhoto for some basic editing when travelling and for backup and checking all is well.  The mini has a fantastic form factor including the weight... The big ipad has a fantastic screen for images but it's bigger and heavier.  A laptop is more functional but far bulkier, and the chargers are much bigger too... The ipad mini fits in my pocket and does almost all I need and the battery can go for far longer. The 3G option costs £10 monthly for the months I want it, even less in Italy where it costs €5 monthly, again only if and when I need it... No contract.  As I want something that works flawlessly and efficiently I use an ipad rather than the various imitations out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angora Posted January 28, 2013 Share #30 Â Posted January 28, 2013 Most folks i know had to get one to realize the many many new functions it would perform that they had no idea it could do or they would ever want it to do. In this case, buy now, then figure it out... You get a big reward. JD Â You have a point here, but I guess these persons had a basic idea of what they wanted to do with it. Otherwise it's like asking what a Leica M could be good for - just before purchasing it. Â It doesn't hurt to wait a bit more anyways; tablets are being in their infancy. There's still a huge productivity gap between mobile operating systems and desktop ones. Windows 8 might bridge the gap... at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted January 29, 2013 Share #31 Â Posted January 29, 2013 I understand your hesitance but a tablet isn't like anything that has come before, productivity isn't the only way of looking at them. They have been life changing to people that are intelligent and inquisitive. I am trying to make the case that, it is one of those instances where waiting simply postpones your life from getting better. A bridge with windows 8 is thinking in the old paradym on what computing can do for you. In reality it opens up a whole new world with greater width and depth than the old one. If you are on a Leica forum you can afford one, then if your not a Luddite, and are curious, jumping first and asking questions later will be rewarded. I'm and early adopter and love to see the look on folks face when they come back to me with excitement, "did you see this? Isn't it incredible! And this and this and this... Etc. The iPad's for me have been one of the best value propositions I have ever seen. To get over a few people's hesitance (4), I gave them one. They are hooked. From my iPad mini. JD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angora Posted January 29, 2013 Share #32 Â Posted January 29, 2013 I understand your hesitance but a tablet isn't like anything that has come before, productivity isn't the only way of looking at them. They have been life changing to people that are intelligent and inquisitive. I am trying to make the case that, it is one of those instances where waiting simply postpones your life from getting better. A bridge with windows 8 is thinking in the old paradym on what computing can do for you. In reality it opens up a whole new world with greater width and depth than the old one. If you are on a Leica forum you can afford one, then if your not a Luddite, and are curious, jumping first and asking questions later will be rewarded. I'm and early adopter and love to see the look on folks face when they come back to me with excitement, "did you see this? Isn't it incredible! And this and this and this... Etc. The iPad's for me have been one of the best value propositions I have ever seen. To get over a few people's hesitance (4), I gave them one. They are hooked. From my iPad mini. JD Â I'm not exactly the kind of person to be repelled by technology. Â A decade ago, I owned a PDA running Pocket PC (Asus A620) and I now have a smartphone running Android (Google Nexus One). Progress has been made on some points, whilst on others it's actually a regression. Overall I've realised that tablets can be useful somehow and facilitate your life but all the hype around them isn't justified, since they can't do much beyond browsing the web, playing or watching a film. Â That's why I'm saying that waiting won't hurt those who have no idea what they want to do with a tablet in the first place. Sure, buying a cheap tablet won't hurt their wallet either; but they won't miss much if they don't jump in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted January 29, 2013 Share #33  Posted January 29, 2013 I'm not exactly the kind of person to be repelled by technology. A decade ago, I owned a PDA running Pocket PC (Asus A620) and I now have a smartphone running Android (Google Nexus One). Progress has been made on some points, whilst on others it's actually a regression. Overall I've realised that tablets can be useful somehow and facilitate your life but all the hype around them isn't justified, since they can't do much beyond browsing the web, playing or watching a film.  That's why I'm saying that waiting won't hurt those who have no idea what they want to do with a tablet in the first place. Sure, buying a cheap tablet won't hurt their wallet either; but they won't miss much if they don't jump in.  I understand what you are saying and couldn't disagree with you more. PDAs failed because the were not the iPad (technology was not advanced enough), I had an Android up until a couple years ago, will not be going back. It's not hype it is reality. That is what drives my enthusiasm for them, what they do for me every day. When I am hiking through the woods looking at a topographic map, or flash my boarding pass getting on a plane, see which ride at Disney world has the smallest line, find directions to a new restaurant, end an discussion of some details. Pull up a scientific paper while in the doctors waiting room, leaf through National Geographic or Photography magazine, read some of the book I am currently reading, look up a technical detail in my Leica manual, just go over the photos I took over the last year, review the three or four forums I have been following, make several approvals for work, plan our next vacation, listen to one of my 1,500 albums on line with my bluetooth. What a newbie would do, would be completely differerent, because their interests are different. I would not recommend a cheap notebook, only and iPad. I would more likely hesitate to recommend my Nikon D800 or Leica X2 way before hesitating recommending an iPad. No, I don't work for Apple and have spent most of my carreer trying to keep Apple out of the corporatation. But they finally did it. JD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share #34 Â Posted January 29, 2013 It's really interesting to hear the different voices here. Thanks. Â This decision isn't one driven by price - though I enjoy getting value for money. Rather, it's genuinely driven by an interest in what the tablet can do that's different from a laptop + a concern not to waste resources on a gadget which will sit on a shelf after the first flush of enthusiasm and eventually get recycled through a charity shop. I'm also not technophobic. Â The impression I'm beginning to get is that a 64GB IPad + PhotoRaw + the Camera Connect kit might offer something useful. If I can have a device which gives me backup / mobile storage, initial weeding + client presentation (which covers the photographic needs I would have) + a mobile means for email / web when connected to hotel / hotspot WiFi, then it's beginning to look interesting. If I can also use it to read news media + academic journal PDFs (something where the screen on my Sony Reader is just too small) about the house or on the go, then it looks interesting. Â Of course this takes me in the Apple direction - something I've resisted since the 1980s... But hey, I'm probably with Oscar Wilde on this Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 29, 2013 Share #35 Â Posted January 29, 2013 A friend called me excitedly after Christmas to say she had received an iPad for Christmas and needed help setting it up for her email. I went over and it turned out she had been given a Samsung something or other and had used the term iPad generically. Â I was shocked how difficult the thing was to use and what is completely intuitive with the iPad took me forever with the Samsung. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted January 29, 2013 Share #36 Â Posted January 29, 2013 I had no interest in a tablet, but my wife gave me an iPad2 a few years ago. Now we have five in the house. Everyone loves them. I email, surf, read, and blog with it, often using a wireless Apple keyboard. Â I take it on the road and use it with Snapseed for light post work. It's great for that, but so far I've only used it for reviewing images and some casual processing. It would not meet my needs for complete post-processing. But for monitoring progress on a project it's great. I imagine it's pretty good for presentation; my images show bettter on it than they do on any of my monitors. Â I think as someone said above, it's a great couch device, a real please not to have to get a notebook out. I'm sure if I had a small Air it would be superfluous. Â John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFlood Posted January 29, 2013 Share #37 Â Posted January 29, 2013 Â The impression I'm beginning to get is that a 64GB IPad + PhotoRaw + the Camera Connect kit might offer something useful. If I can have a device which gives me backup / mobile storage, initial weeding + client presentation (which covers the photographic needs I would have) + a mobile means for email / web when connected to hotel / hotspot WiFi, then it's beginning to look interesting. If I can also use it to read news media + academic journal PDFs (something where the screen on my Sony Reader is just too small) about the house or on the go, then it looks interesting. Â Sounds like you are getting the right impression. I would not get too set on exactly the workflow you would use. I would go ahead knowing that there are many uses that you do not yet know for it, and that it will fit into your photo flow somehow but you really need to become a user to see how. Get one, see what directions it takes you. Whatever your interests it will facilitate your learning with different apps, if inclined there are thousands of free university classes (just download)... When traveling I like to download the days photos and fine tune them with one of several Lightroom like apps... You'll blush at how easy they are to use. Anyway, looks like you are picking up the right impression. JD ( I was with you on keeping Apple out, no longer, it is now becoming corporate mainstream ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted January 29, 2013 Share #38 Â Posted January 29, 2013 They just announced a 128GB option on the ipad which would make it even more useful as an on the go file backup/ preview device. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 29, 2013 Share #39 Â Posted January 29, 2013 Chris ..... I think this is what you will end up doing with it if you get one ..... Â No need to understand German.... :D Â So papa, how do you like the iPad we got you? - Snotr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budrichard Posted January 29, 2013 Share #40 Â Posted January 29, 2013 We previously owned iPhone 4's before iPad purchase and still own the same iPhones. I look at new product introductions and purchase when the product has left the trial stage and entered the useful life stage and try to guess when to purchase with the thought of using the device ti its maximum lifetime. I do not run out and upgrade to the latest. My background as a Nuclear Engineer had included all types of platforms, Operating system and management of MIS Departments as direct reports. I have constantly strived to introduce the newest and best technology to improve production. The iPhone is a great device limted by it's screen size. I waited until last Spring for the 'new' iPad and I have 4G and 64 GB. 4G not really needed and 64GB overkill so my wife got a 16GB iPad. Both mostly operate off WIFI but if on the road, take the 4G sometimes. The difficult to use Apps because of screen size apps on the iPhone become no problem with the iPad. So most of my usage is for financial, browsing, have moved to the iPad, Speeds up the process by at least 50%. Apple does a masterful job of insuring everything works to gether, Apps, IOS and perriferals. this comes at the expense of being able to manipulate the iPad to your exact wants if an IT Professional but most of are not IT Pros and are best left to having Apple do the work for us. Intensive Word Processing, Scanning with my CoolScan, photographic manipulation, stay with a Windows based system at this point. I have windows based Desktop and Laptop, both from Dell and fully featured when new. Next Desktop will probably be a Mac If you are satisfied with your current computer system and have no need for fast internet access and useful Apps, then an iPad may not be for you. The iPad is also a display device from the internet to your digital Tv and indeed our iPads are hooked up to digital Tv's and streaming al sorts of content from the internet. iPad is also a useful device to store videos, songs, pictures or whatever. the Retina display is simply awesome. I would suggest going to an Apple store if there is one near you and spending some time with an iPad. I love the iPad and am using it with a ZAAG case and keyboard as I type this.-Dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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