dkCambridgeshire Posted March 24, 2007 Share #1 Posted March 24, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Should be arriving on Tuesday and looking forward to using it at Canary Wharf ... was originally a German company ... http://www.claudiobottari.com/clabo/mamiya/plaubel/page1.html Dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Johannes Knightworth Posted March 24, 2007 Share #2 Posted March 24, 2007 ..... wrong post sorry...... definitely need to start wearing my glasses more :-) What format is the camera ? I only them as 6x7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted March 24, 2007 The Plaubel ProShift is 6x9 but I will probably have to crop the slides to 6x7 as so far cannot find/source any glass 6x9 slide mounts ... other medium format Plaubel models were 6x7 ie the Makina 67 and the Makina W67 with Nikkor 80mm and 55mm lenses respectively. Dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 27, 2007 Share #4 Posted March 27, 2007 Should be arriving on Tuesday and looking forward to using it at Canary Wharf ... was originally a German company ... Page 1 Dunk Interesting camera: I suppose lens is some Schneider Super Angulon 65 or so... the name and the "sliding button" that can be seen in the front suggest it may allow some limited shifting movement of the lens for perspective correction; the look is "modern", more '70s than '60, I argue. Surely one can found on the Net something about... Plaubel used to be a brand with a specific niche of its own and surely still has users/aficionados somewhere. My impression is that they tried to create something not too far from Linhof Technikas in terms of versatility and better than Technikas in hand use... time ago I had a Linhof Technika 70 : in theory, could be used freehand, in practice, tripod mandatory; Thechnikas were fascinating items, anyway, and the strange camera named Linhof 220 was, in my opinion, an excellent design : the best 6x7 for a quick use, with a superb lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted March 28, 2007 Luigi, I also have a Linhof Technika 70 but it is very much heavier than the Plaubel ... the Linhof is more versatile as regards movements ... but it will not take a 47mm lens. The advantage of the Plaubel is that it weighs just 1600g ..about the same as an R8/28mm PC Super-Angulon combination ... but the 47mm Super Angulon on the Plaubel is equivalent to a 21mm lens on a 35mm camera. I was considering getting a 28mm PC Super Angulon for my R8 but the Plaubel has a much wider field of view. Also I want to project 6x7 slides .. would be 6x9 but cant find any 6x9 slide mounts for sale anywhere ... so will settle for a crop to 6x7. Dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 29, 2007 Share #6 Posted March 29, 2007 Wow! The Plaubel you quote has the 47 SA ? I argued only a 65... Yea, nice to have such a lens on 6x9 / 6x7 ! I must admit that my love affair with serious MFs has probably ended when I discarded the Technika 70, but still like to speak of MFs... very fine tools; now that I can shot 120 film only with my (excellent...) Super Ikonta 6x9... not often used, but sufficient to resemble me the superb negs one can have with these formats. I was tempted, some months ago, by a Fujj 690 with 3-lens set 65-100-180... passed away... do not know what could happen if perchance I get my nose onto a Plaubel like yours...mmmhhh, 47 SA... I feel something in my heart when I think back of the 53 Biogon of my Technika 70... OK, this is Leica Forum, but if you will post me your impressions on the Plaubel, surely I'll read them with interest...see you later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumac Posted March 29, 2007 Share #7 Posted March 29, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Duncan, A good glass supplier will be able to cut 6x9 in 2mm glass, hold together with a narrow cloth tape. We used to do this for 4"x4" slides for picture theatre advertising 50+ years ago Regards, Stuart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canfred Posted March 29, 2007 Share #8 Posted March 29, 2007 Interesting camera: I suppose lens is some Schneider Super Angulon 65 or so... the name and the "sliding button" that can be seen in the front suggest it may allow some limited shifting movement of the lens for perspective correction; the look is "modern", more '70s than '60, I argue. Surely one can found on the Net something about... Plaubel used to be a brand with a specific niche of its own and surely still has users/aficionados somewhere. My impression is that they tried to create something not too far from Linhof Technikas in terms of versatility and better than Technikas in hand use... time ago I had a Linhof Technika 70 : in theory, could be used freehand, in practice, tripod mandatory; Thechnikas were fascinating items, anyway, and the strange camera named Linhof 220 was, in my opinion, an excellent design : the best 6x7 for a quick use, with a superb lens. Hi Luigi , here is my Linhof 220 this strange camera as you describe it. Worth to know the lens is being used again for the 6x9 Alpa. My 220 is one of only 300 ever made. I use the camera at times it will work with 120 film as well just shift the pressure plate.The coupled meter works still but very unreliable so I use a handheld.The lens is a five element Heliar type made by Rodenstock. Manfred Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/19668-not-leica-but-is-a-classic/?do=findComment&comment=214984'>More sharing options...
Canfred Posted March 29, 2007 Share #9 Posted March 29, 2007 Should be arriving on Tuesday and looking forward to using it at Canary Wharf ... was originally a German company ... Page 1 Dunk Hi Duncan thank you for this post it sure is a most interesting design very new to me , I own a Baby Linhof which I modified to to 6x9 from 6x7 it adds 20% to the wide angle. Yes it can be used handheld and doing so will build up your biceps. Your Plaubel will be a joy to use enjoy it you will. Manfred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 29, 2007 Share #10 Posted March 29, 2007 Hi Luigi , here is my Linhof 220 this strange camera as you describe it.Worth to know the lens is being used again for the 6x9 Alpa. My 220 is one of only 300 ever made. I use the camera at times it will work with 120 film as well just shift the pressure plate.The coupled meter works still but very unreliable so I use a handheld.The lens is a five element Heliar type made by Rodenstock. Manfred Manfred, is nice, damn, IS NICE... I found an item almost fine as yours, black body (also white existed, seems to me) in Italy 1 year ago and I put my hands on it, the RF was perfect, the meter so-so... shoot a 120 film... saw the results, and..was so stupid to leave it at the dealer (price was attractive): as I said before, the only MF I have is a Super Ikonta 6x9, and have had also a Rolleiflex Planar 3,5... I think that Linhof 220 is probably more usable than both of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted April 2, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted April 2, 2007 One advantage of using 'Linhof badged' lenses is that Linhof test all their lenses and would reject any that did not meeet their rigid test criteria ... ie their quality control was/is probably better than that of the original lens manufacturers. So, any Linhof lens is quite likely to produce a better result than the equivalent non-Linhof badged example. My Linhof Technika 70 is a wonderful example of miniature engineering .. I also have MPP and Graflex 5x4 cameras and although they are well made, they are somewhat agricultural in comparison to Linhof. The Graflex I have is a Super Speed Graphic and was formerly owned by the late Terence Donovan - he was a brilliant comedian as well as being one of the 3 probably best known 60's UK photographers. I saw a documentary featuring him - "SPEED OF LIGHT! SPEED OF LIGHT!" ... and he liked using Gandolfi cameras "made out of an old chest of drawers!!" ,,, He also used an 11" x 14" Deardorf, several Plaubel 67's, Albionflex 6x9 TLR's, several Pentax 67's, Tomiyama Seisakusho 6x24 panoramic, Fuji GX680 ... three Leica M6 with 50mm Summicrons ... and an R6 with 15mm Super Elmar-R 15mm. Christies auctioned his cameras on 12 June 1997. Dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Robertson Posted April 9, 2007 Share #12 Posted April 9, 2007 Should be arriving on Tuesday and looking forward to using it at Canary Wharf ... was originally a German company ... Page 1 Dunk Best of luck at Canary Wharf, you will get hassle from Police and Security Staff (SS), I have virtually given up London as a place to photograph!!! Even Amateur Photography staff got hassle recently on Westminster Bridge. We now live in a police state, I felt less threatened by the "authorities" in Moscow in the 60's!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted April 14, 2007 Share #13 Posted April 14, 2007 The Plaubel " 69W proshift "is a great kamera I worked with.... ..and you can shift!... this was the first model from 1959-63... .... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! with the Verriwide 100 Leitz Finder !!.. regards, Jan Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! with the Verriwide 100 Leitz Finder !!.. regards, Jan ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/19668-not-leica-but-is-a-classic/?do=findComment&comment=228451'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share #14 Posted April 14, 2007 Thanks Jan ... Plaubel made some interesting cameras ... have seen a Veriwide for sale on Ebay recently ... believe it was in Italy ... your photo is better. Cheers dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted April 14, 2007 Share #15 Posted April 14, 2007 Thanks Jan ... Plaubel made some interesting cameras ... have seen a Veriwide for sale on Ebay recently ... believe it was in Italy ... your photo is better.Cheers dunk ...I dit it myself... ...but i sold it... I have some introduktion to your Plaubel, but in german...if you like, I can put it in here.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted April 14, 2007 Thanks Jan, If you mean information I have purchased photocopies of Plaubel sales literature, an instruction manual ... and a camera test done by Amateur Photographer in 1982 .... all from 'Oldtimer Cameras Camera manuals, camera test reports, instruction books, camera repair manuals I would be interested to see your information .. but unfortunately I do not read German. Cheers dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted April 15, 2007 Share #17 Posted April 15, 2007 Hello Duncan, I think it is the same like the one you got from the link... regards, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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