vikasmg Posted January 23, 2013 Share #81 Posted January 23, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm really attracted by the new M for the higher ISO capability and the foucs peaking feature ... I tried the focus peaking feature on the Sony Nex-7 with a Leica M lens and found it very disappointing. Very unreliable focusing in the middle distance. I was using a 28mm lens at f2.8 and the camera couldn't differentiate between infinity and closer things. A lot of things showed the red highlight edges but the results showed a lot of things were not in fact in focus. Worked well for close focus but I could do that without the focus peaking assistance anyway. I hope the Leica M feature is more more rewarding otherwise one may as well rely on the rangefinder! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Hi vikasmg, Take a look here new 'official' M240 pics up!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
cirke Posted January 23, 2013 Share #82 Posted January 23, 2013 I tried the focus peaking feature on the Sony Nex-7 with a Leica M lens and found it very disappointing. I am using the focus peaking with the Sony nex-6 and Leica apo-telyt and for me it works very well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iedei Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share #83 Posted January 23, 2013 I tried the focus peaking feature on the Sony Nex-7 with a Leica M lens and found it very disappointing. Very unreliable focusing in the middle distance. I was using a 28mm lens at f2.8 and the camera couldn't differentiate between infinity and closer things. A lot of things showed the red highlight edges but the results showed a lot of things were not in fact in focus. Worked well for close focus but I could do that without the focus peaking assistance anyway. I hope the Leica M feature is more more rewarding otherwise one may as well rely on the rangefinder! I tried using it on my Ricoh GXR and it is rubbish. takes the fun out of photography.....gross. turned that feature off permanently! I cannot imagine ever using or should I say want to use----a feature like that on a Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted January 23, 2013 Share #84 Posted January 23, 2013 Some nice candid shots. But so I have yet to see an example of the M being better than the M9 with a real-world sample. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted January 23, 2013 Share #85 Posted January 23, 2013 I see your point in part, but these are possibly the first official Leica M pictures. If Leica didn't expect interpretation and some post processing this would be all about A-B comparisons of Newspaper, wine bottles and coins wouldn't it ? Considering that we are less that 2 months to release and the fact that the M must have been beta tested for a good 6 months at least, I am quite surprised that Leica has not yet released some 'WOW' pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted January 23, 2013 Share #86 Posted January 23, 2013 Considering that we are less that 2 months to release and the fact that the M must have been beta tested for a good 6 months at least, I am quite surprised that Leica has not yet released some 'WOW' pictures. many tester got it by the end of september Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddyT Posted January 23, 2013 Share #87 Posted January 23, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) How do you know? Sent from my galaxy using Tapatalk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted January 23, 2013 Share #88 Posted January 23, 2013 How do you know?I know 2 guys and they had it at that time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted January 23, 2013 Share #89 Posted January 23, 2013 It's that silver disk that's making it look like that. Infact I first thought of Digilux 1 Also he has the grip on, which increases the visual thickness from side and front/rear view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wok64 Posted January 23, 2013 Share #90 Posted January 23, 2013 I am using the focus peaking with the Sony nex-6 and Leica apo-telyt and for me it works very well You are both right in fact. With the Apo Telyt due to the fairly narrow depth of field the NEX focus peaking works very well indeed. With wider lenses like e.g. the 35mm Summilux it's almost impossible to nail the focus just relying on the focus peaking. Wolfgang Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wok64 Posted January 23, 2013 Share #91 Posted January 23, 2013 I tried using it on my Ricoh GXR and it is rubbish. takes the fun out of photography.....gross. turned that feature off permanently! I cannot imagine ever using or should I say want to use----a feature like that on a Leica. Interesting, I found the focus peaking on the GXR much more reliable than the one for the NEX 7. I'm fairly sure I'm going to use it for the APO Telyt on the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pragmatist Posted January 23, 2013 Share #92 Posted January 23, 2013 You are both right in fact. With the Apo Telyt due to the fairly narrow depth of field the NEX focus peaking works very well indeed. With wider lenses like e.g. the 35mm Summilux it's almost impossible to nail the focus just relying on the focus peaking. Wolfgang That's interesting to know. Will that be the same on the type 240 then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddyT Posted January 23, 2013 Share #93 Posted January 23, 2013 "Leica Internet Team says: January 23, 2013 at 3:08 pm No you aren’t wrong! Jean Gaumy did include the Leica M9 in his package because the Leica M prototype wasn’t ready at that exact moment. He only started this series with a M9 and approximately 90% of the photos were taken with the new Leica M. Purporting that all images are from a Leica M was really not our intention. Please accept our apologies. Stay tuned for more installments of the Kyrgyzstan series and more genuine Leica M photos! Thanks for reaching out." From M240 blog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCharlton Posted January 23, 2013 Share #94 Posted January 23, 2013 Leica just posted an official statement regarding the photos. "Hi everyone! Thank you for your comments. We’ve seen a lot of questions regarding the EXIF data. Jean Gaumy went to Kyrgyzstan with a Leica M9 in his package, because the Leica M prototype wasn’t ready at that exact moment. However, he just started this series with a M9. In fact, approx. 90% of all photos were taken with a new Leica M. Purporting that all images are from a Leica M was really not our intention. Sorry!! The Kyrgyzstan series will be continued and there are more installments to come, so please stay tuned for more genuine Leica M photos. Again, thank you for reaching out! - Leica Internet Team" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted January 23, 2013 Share #95 Posted January 23, 2013 Just got word from the powers to be (people running the Blog), these are images from the M240 only. They must all be from the typ 240. There is not even one shot that looks like the color I get from the M9. 90% of all photos were taken with a new Leica M. Purporting that all images are from a Leica M was really not our intention. Isn't this slowly getting pathetic? Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted January 23, 2013 Share #96 Posted January 23, 2013 I guess that answers the question about whether there is a difference between CCD and CMOS as the experts here couldn't tell without looking at th EXIF data. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted January 23, 2013 Share #97 Posted January 23, 2013 That's interesting to know. Will that be the same on the type 240 then? I've been trying a nex7 recently, and like the peaking. It appears better/easier with narrow depth of field, but for me, critical focus requires magnification. For fast reaction photography the RF still seems to be a better answer. With a 28, you can adjust the focus quite a bit and get little useful change in the full-frame peaking display. When magnified, however, the adjustments have far more visible effects, and excellent results in photos. With a 180 the full-frame display has great visible effect with much smaller adjustments, leading one to think it's working well. Looks are deceiving, as zooming in on the actual image shows areas I expect to be sharp as visibly blurred. With magnification focus is excellent. So for my uses, the nex7 full-frame peaking is inadequate for all my lenses, but when magnified seems good for all my lenses. It seems like peaking would work better on the full frame if it were much more selective about the edges it highlights. I'm looking forward to hearing about (and eventually seeing) how it works on the M, as it could clearly be better tuned than it is on the nex7. The prominence of the M's magnification button is suggestive. I think the few M photos we've seen are far too limited to evaluate. I look forward to the lifting of NDAs when we can hear from Sean Reid, Ming Thein, and others about how this camera really performs and directly compares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted January 23, 2013 Share #98 Posted January 23, 2013 You are both right in fact. With the Apo Telyt due to the fairly narrow depth of field the NEX focus peaking works very well indeed. With wider lenses like e.g. the 35mm Summilux it's almost impossible to nail the focus just relying on the focus peaking. Wolfgang I have only tried NEX and focus peaking with the 135 and 90 Summicron, and it worksfor 28,35,50 mm I use the M9 Interesting, I found the focus peaking on the GXR much more reliable than the one for the NEX 7. I'm fairly sure I'm going to use it for the APO Telyt on the M.If the focus peaking on the new M is better than on the NEX-6 it's a very good news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iedei Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share #99 Posted January 23, 2013 Interesting, I found the focus peaking on the GXR much more reliable than the one for the NEX 7. I'm fairly sure I'm going to use it for the APO Telyt on the M. it may be accurate, but it's not enjoyable to use! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted January 23, 2013 Share #100 Posted January 23, 2013 That's interesting to know. Will that be the same on the type 240 then? Of course. I have seen the implementation on the new M and it's quite well done IMHO. But in the end it's always just an electronic visualization of edge sharpness, nothing more. The shorter the lens and the smaller the aperture the more sharp edges you will see and the less you will be able to guess your exact point of focus. For long lenses and wide apertures it will work quite well. All in all it's a good addition, but no substitute for a well adjusted rangefinder. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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