photomeme Posted February 22, 2013 Share #121 Posted February 22, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I largely agree with the consensus here that, whilst not essential, an orange or yellow filter is desirable in most situations and this thread should serve as a word of warning to anyone attracted to a Monochrom because of its "better ISO performance". Under artificial light, at night, my filters typically come off. Daytime, they help with having *too* high an ISO in daylight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Hi photomeme, Take a look here Monochrom filter discussion. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
sdk Posted February 22, 2013 Share #122 Posted February 22, 2013 On the M Monochrom Shots thread, forum member Otto F stated that the camera, unfiltered, "systematically" renders skin tone about 1 stop too dark and a yellow filter does not sufficiently compensate. He also states that he is going to experiment with a skylight KR 1.5 filter, and on the above-cied thread I posted a reply encouraging him to keep us (me) informed on his efforts. OTHER OPINIONS AND SUGGESTIONS RE THIS PUTATIVE PROBLEM? Has anyone tried magenta color compensating filters? These would make caucasian skin slightly lighter and greens slightly darker, so if a caucasian person were photographed in front of foliage, they person would stand out more in a filtered MM image than in a non filtered one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicks500 Posted February 22, 2013 Share #123 Posted February 22, 2013 great thread but it is a shame that the standard forum format doesnt allow for a spreadsheet that has one axis showing filter colours, the other axis showing picture styles(portrait, landscape etc) and everyone can vote by clicking on their favourite filter/style option. Now that would be good!....Im off to buy an orange 040 filter:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted February 23, 2013 Share #124 Posted February 23, 2013 The MM appears to have a - reduced versus the M8, but still noticeable - sensitivity in deep red and near-IR, (film doesn't) and as haemoglobin is strongly reflective in that colour band the MM will certainly respond differently to veins etc. on Caucasian skin. A yellow or yellow-green filter(are they still on the market?) might not be a good idea.On a sidenote, far IR appears to be suppressed quite effectively. Edit - a Cyan filter is the filter of choice on the Tech-Pan. From the Kodak spec sheet: Note that 690 nm is well shy of the end of the IR spectrum which runs from 750 nm to 1 mm This is interesting to me because I still use an M8 along with my MM, and my thought has been to just leave the UV IR filters on the lenses when shooting with the MM. So far, I have noticed no problems with that, although I've just started using the MM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidigital Posted February 23, 2013 Share #125 Posted February 23, 2013 I hope this whole MM / filter discussion (a topic that is certain to be debated forever on forum like LUF) doesn't discourage people who might want to try the Monochrom from taking the plunge as they are led to believe that the camera is difficult to master. Because, IMHO, that couldn't be further from the truth ... with or without filters. The files are quite easy to work with in post processing as long as you remember to not blow the highlights. One of the easiest ways to make certain that that doesn't happen is to make certain you underexpose by -1/3 to -1. (I typically keep my camera on -2/3.) There is so much to work in the files as you move back the exposure slider while post processing in Lightroom that you can adjust contrast, clarity, highlights and shadows to suit your taste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest borge Posted February 23, 2013 Share #126 Posted February 23, 2013 I hope this whole MM / filter discussion (a topic that is certain to be debated forever on forum like LUF) doesn't discourage people who might want to try the Monochrom from taking the plunge as they are led to believe that the camera is difficult to master. Because, IMHO, that couldn't be further from the truth ... with or without filters. The files are quite easy to work with in post processing as long as you remember to not blow the highlights. One of the easiest ways to make certain that that doesn't happen is to make certain you underexpose by -1/3 to -1. (I typically keep my camera on -2/3.) There is so much to work in the files as you move back the exposure slider while post processing in Lightroom that you can adjust contrast, clarity, highlights and shadows to suit your taste. Very true! Filters are not necessary at ALL to get stunning results from the MM. The files from the MM are also very easy to process compared to typical color files where you have to worry about white balance, hues, color tones, sharpening noise/artifacts, etc, etc. Filters add some flavor to the MM but they are in no way necessary to create excellent results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted February 24, 2013 Share #127 Posted February 24, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Personally I find the use of filters both optional and also fun in a nostalgic way! The ND filters are just as necessary on ISO 160 with the M9 during bright light wide open. Yellow or orange are great for the other 95% or even clear really is just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
platypus Posted February 28, 2013 Share #128 Posted February 28, 2013 From personal experience an orange/yellow filter for the MM is helpful for landscape photography, if there are clouds and sky involved. Other than that I have not so far perceived a need to use a coloured filter with the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted March 23, 2013 Share #129 Posted March 23, 2013 I hope this whole MM / filter discussion (a topic that is certain to be debated forever on forum like LUF) doesn't discourage people who might want to try the Monochrom from taking the plunge as they are led to believe that the camera is difficult to master. Because, IMHO, that couldn't be further from the truth ... with or without filters. The files are quite easy to work with in post processing as long as you remember to not blow the highlights. One of the easiest ways to make certain that that doesn't happen is to make certain you underexpose by -1/3 to -1. (I typically keep my camera on -2/3.) There is so much to work in the files as you move back the exposure slider while post processing in Lightroom that you can adjust contrast, clarity, highlights and shadows to suit your taste. So true. Occasionally I read these threads and get in a panic as to which of my old filters I should use (thankfully I kept lots of them). Then I remember that on the Monochrom I should use a coloured filter just as often as I used them with B&W film - occasionally, for effect, and never left on the lens all the time. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted March 29, 2013 Share #130 Posted March 29, 2013 For example, when shooting under a canopy jungle what filter would one use? BLUE! Who uses a blue filter but a few of us? Well I am sitting in a garden tea house, with a jungle like canopy... I am not sure I like blue filters in this setting. Skin tones don't look natural. I am tending toward green filters... It's an old new world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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