PATB Posted March 19, 2007 Share #1 Posted March 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have had my MP for about two months now and feel very comfortable with it. I decided to make it my mainstay travel camera and will be bringing it with me for upcoming vacation tours. One thing that is giving me pause is indoor color photography with articial light sources. Using Fuji Superia 400, I get a yellow cast very similar to a wrong white balance problem in my dSLR when shooting indoors illuminated by light bulbs. I have read that I can get around this by using an 80A filter or tungsten balanced film. I am not too excited about the 80A filter as it seems it is going to soak up two stops. I am usually already in the 1/15, f.0 with my 50mm summicron when shooting at night indoors with 400 speed film, and I hate using my tripod. I am not sure if tungsten balanced film would give me as good results as regular films, and they are hard to get. Are these my main options without using flash? What did wedding photographers do to shoot inside churches and hotels before the advent of digital? The more I think about this, the more I realize that a small dSLR is the way to go for travel as I can always change ISO on the fly and set white balance, without worrying about airport Xray machines. I have a Nikon D40, but it is as fun to use as watching paint dry. I much rather shoot the MP (I love my MP ), so I am looking for a solution to low light color photography indoors. (At the moment, I am wondering if I could get away with just carrying a small point and shoot for indoor stuff. That CLUX-2 starts to look tempting especially with my upcoming Leica $500 gift certiticate.) Any advice you can send my way would be greatly appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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londonuk Posted March 19, 2007 Share #2 Posted March 19, 2007 I understand your dilema. Your only other options are to use colour neg film and correct during printing or scan and correct in computer. If you use a point and shoot digicam with a small chip, you risk getting horribly noisey (grainy) pictures, unless you use a Fuji. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylianos Posted March 20, 2007 Share #3 Posted March 20, 2007 I don't see anything wrong in this yellow cast... Just free your mind and enjoy photography - you lose the essence. Photography with an M is not about depicting the exact reality, I imagine that is not your goal, unless you are a professional and you want things presented as they truly are. This color cast on daylight film gives a nice atmosphere in your pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 20, 2007 Share #4 Posted March 20, 2007 Agree, either 'use' the cast, or correct it at the printing stage or by using filters. You can get a Photoshop colour correction filter plug-in too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsu Posted March 20, 2007 Share #5 Posted March 20, 2007 Bulb light is yellow, so there is no problem at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATB Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted March 20, 2007 One can really rely on members of this forum for excellent advice. I especially like the photoshop plug-in for color correction solution! I have all my color films developed and scanned anyways -- so color correction in photoshop for the few indoor shots where the yellow cast "does not work" is no big deal. Thanks for the replies.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKSC Posted March 23, 2007 Share #7 Posted March 23, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Fuji Natura 1600 is a good film for such situations. Its fast (but best shot at 800), and because it has much less contrast than the Superia films the yellow cast will not be so overpowering, and will be easier to correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
think Posted March 23, 2007 Share #8 Posted March 23, 2007 Fuji 800 NPZ (or Superia 800 for that matter) will give you another stop, but don't underexpose as it leans toward a heavier grain if you do. I correct in post for images that seem to require it; in other cases a mild cast has a certain appeal. You could also look into a used 'Lux or a Canon 50 1.4 or 1.2. to pick up another stop. I use the 1.2 and love the look and color it produces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywalder Posted March 23, 2007 Share #9 Posted March 23, 2007 Pat, looking at B&W's catalogue (from the Homepage: Jos. Schneider Optische Werke GmbH site), their equivalent filter has a filter factor of 2.2 which is 1 stop rather than 2 stops. As a compromise you could use a weaker filter to partly compensate. Doing the work when you scan may give you a better result than working on the file afterwards in photoshop, although in both cases its a bit of a compromise done by boosting the blue channel... Why not shoot B&W film indoors instead!? Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnkuo Posted March 23, 2007 Share #10 Posted March 23, 2007 Here's a sample of Fuji NPZ lab scan (no correction in photoshop). I like the warm look. Taken with Noctilux wide open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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