35, 50 Summicron vs Summarit

[gvaliquette]

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Ah, yes, that was another question: Biogon 24/28 2.8 or Elmarit 28?

 

You MUST consider the 24mm f3.8 Elmar-M, a fabulous lens, yet still affordable (in Laicaland).

 

Guy

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[Guest MarcRF]

I think you have to think about more than just the optical performance... all of us using leica glass are very spoiled because we already have the best mounted and stored in our bags.

 

the 35/50 summarit have a very short and "loose" focus throw. its a pleasure focusing it for hours because you can move the focus tab so fast and smooth. this is something to consider if you want very precise and strong focusing.

 

the 50 summarit has a focusing tab compared to the 50 cron (the older version has one)

 

other than that it's just slightly less weight/size and 2/3 stop less light

 

I like lenses with an appropriate front element - thus the 35 summarit looks ugly to me but its just the looks and very subjective (besides me disliking the 35mm point of view)

 

I would still get the summarits. I've held and used them for an hour or so when I was in solms and I liked the fast focusing, the size and how they feel.

 

btw to me the 28 elmarit asph feels like the 5th summarit because it's small, flare resistant, with great optical quality and with comparable maximum aperture although it has aspheric surfaces.

[01af]

I would still get the Summarits.

Hey ... I got the Summarit-M 35 mm off eBay two years ago. I actually wanted the Summilux but delivery took so long so I got the Summarit as a stop-gap, with the intention to sell it as soon as the Summilux would arrive.

 

I fell in love with the Summarit immediately—so much that I acquired the other three Summarits (50, 75, 90) also. I even considered cancelling the order for the Summilux-M 35 mm Asph. After 15 months, the Summilux finally arrived, and it sure is marvellous. It's the best 35 mm lens for 35-mm format ever—still I cannot depart with my Summarit-M 35 mm. It's small, it's excellent, and it's the most flare-resistant lens ever (in this particular regard it's even better than the Summilux). And it makes the M9 look like grandpa's old point-and-shoot ... harmless, unobstrusive, apparently worthless—the best street-shooting lens ever.

[tomasis7]

indeed summarits are wonderful!

 

I have 50mm Summarit that I replaced Cron. If I had new Cron, I'd replace with new Summarit anyway.

 

Because

 

- faster focusing (you can do many hours)

- smaller, lighter

- f2.5, it forces take better pic than silly object in blurry background

 

For wide angle, Im also considering 24/3.8 Elmarit or 28mm Elmarit.

 

I would not go back to faster lenses since new M and MM can do everything with slow lenses!!

[Marignac]

Well, I think I will stop by Mr. Hartmann in Solms as I'm frequently in Frankfurt and Solms is next door. I need not tell you the rest of the story though it lies in the future...

 

As I review the great answers you provided (thank you so much, folks! ), one thing came out very clearly: more than any other lens do I need to get the Elmarit 28. I've been attracted by this very lens for quite a time when a photography buddy in the neighbourhood had me mount his (to a then M8). It turned out to be just gorgeous on the M8. In the sequel I thought I could cut budgets in going for a Zeiss of which I've seen good things as well. But, yes, the Elmarit 28 is the Elmarit 28, is the Elmarit 28!

 

And what speaks for the Summarit 35 is its antagonist, the CV 35/1.2. This is, next to Summarit 75, and, yes, Tamron 28-75/2.8 (5D), my favourite lens, which I won't ever give away. Look, I'm just getting home from theatre, f1.2:

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[Marignac]

What about the Biogon 35/2.8? I've read and seen extremely interesting bits by Sean Reid and Erwin Puts. Anyone having any experiences to share?

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What about the Biogon 35/2.8? I've read and seen extremely interesting bits by Sean Reid and Erwin Puts. Anyone having any experiences to share?

 

Yes it's extremely good. But the old Summaron 35 f2.8 is if anything better and – once you have disabled the infuriating infinity lock with a sliver from a matchstick (!) – a joy to use. Superb build quality and Leica E39 cylindrical hood is still current.

[iwskipper]

Hey ... I got the Summarit-M 35 mm off eBay two years ago. I actually wanted the Summilux but delivery took so long so I got the Summarit as a stop-gap' date=' with the intention to sell it as soon as the Summilux would arrive.

 

I fell in love with the Summarit immediately—so much that I acquired the other three Summarits (50, 75, 90) also. I even considered cancelling the order for the Summilux-M 35 mm Asph. After 15 months, the Summilux finally arrived, and it sure is marvellous. It's the best 35 mm lens for 35-mm format ever—still I cannot depart with my Summarit-M 35 mm. It's small, it's excellent, and it's the most flare-resistant lens ever (in this particular regard it's even better than the Summilux). And it makes the M9 look like grandpa's old point-and-shoot ... harmless, unobstrusive, apparently worthless—the best street-shooting lens ever.[/quote']

 

 

That's it - just to make a "long story short".... There is no causality to acquire a 35 mm Summicron instead of the Summarit. ;-))

 

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